MS will "soon" unveil free anti-virus software "Morro"

> It disables Windows Defender...

Maybe not, at least in this beta build. See



Richard Urban wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> It asks, of course, for you to uninstall any other anti virus program.
> That
> is just good practice.
>
> It disables Windows Defender because those capabilities are apparently
> built-in to the new software.
>
> I still have MalwareBytes and ThreatFire on my system with no complaints
> or
> nasty interaction. They both continue to function.
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> It is a Beta and it is asking to uninstall any and all presently
>> installed
>> Anti Virus and Security programs when installing it. Nor knowing how well
>> it flags malware and or virus it is a bit of a gamble at this time.
>> Anyway
>> that is my opinion
>>
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<SNIP>

 

Why are you guys so bitter wait here....

tell me if am wrong with this link (see below)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
June 19, 2009
Pigs fly! Microsoft leads in security
Microsoft's success with Security Development Lifecycle has security experts
buzzing and offers lessons -- along with a heap of free resources -- for
your company
Talk about a turnaround. It's always hard to recognize the larger,
slow-moving paradigm shifts as they happen. But after a decade of bad press
regarding its commitment to software security, Microsoft seems to have
turned the tide. Redmond is getting consistent security accolades these
days, often from the very critics who used to call it out. Many of the
world's most knowledgeable security experts are urging their favorite
software vendors to follow in the footsteps of Microsoft.
Haters will always continue hating, but the technical press is giving a lot
of favorable coverage to Microsoft's successful efforts to make itself a
computer software security leader. Here are some recent examples:

"Microsoft for a long time rightly got a bad reputation for insecure
products. However, as an industry we should recognize the sea change in
Microsoft's approach to security, of which this [Microsoft's plans to share
its Security Development Lifecycle process components] is just one example,
and encourage other vendors to follow Microsoft's lead." -- SANS NewsBites

[ Roger Grimes lays bare two of the most vulnerable components of Internet
security: software and Web browsers | Learn how to secure your systems with
Security Adviser newsletter. ]

"Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development." -- CNET

"When I first started writing about information security five years ago, all
a writer had to do was mention Microsoft in the same headline space as
'security vulnerability' to strike page-view gold. In 2004 Microsoft was a
couple years into its Trustworthy Computing Initiative but it remained the
software company IT security practitioners hated with glee.... That's not so
much the case today." -- Computerworld

"'This [Windows 7 new memory protection] is smart,' said Charlie Miller, who
as principal analyst at Independent Security Evaluators has successfully
exploited weaknesses in Windows, OS X, and Linux. 'I think they're
[Microsoft] trying to stay ahead of the curve.'" -- The Register

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now mind telling me david if the logic is not reasonable

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:#8TPeHE9JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> From: "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com>
>
> | Just put this on perspective.... Microsoft already have published "3
> | previous security products ( defender/onecare/forefront ), who would
> better
> | know how to protect the windows system than the creators of it as well
> right
> | ( logical ).
>
> Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad.
>
> Microsoft -- The wolf should not be guarding the henhouse.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave
>
> Multi-AV -
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I am running the official beta on Windows 7 and Windows Defender has, in
fact, been disabled.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eftBgLJ9JHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> It disables Windows Defender...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Maybe not, at least in this beta build. See
>
>
>
> Richard Urban wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> It asks, of course, for you to uninstall any other anti virus program.
>> That
>> is just good practice.
>>
>> It disables Windows Defender because those capabilities are apparently
>> built-in to the new software.
>>
>> I still have MalwareBytes and ThreatFire on my system with no complaints
>> or
>> nasty interaction. They both continue to function.
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> It is a Beta and it is asking to uninstall any and all presently
>>> installed
>>> Anti Virus and Security programs when installing it. Nor knowing how
>>> well
>>> it flags malware and or virus it is a bit of a gamble at this time.
>>> Anyway
>>> that is my opinion
>>>
>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <SNIP> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

YMMV. The last time I checked, posts in the MSE forums suggest that not all
Win7 RC users were seeing the same behavior, Richard.

Richard Urban wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I am running the official beta on Windows 7 and Windows Defender has, in
> fact, been disabled.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> It disables Windows Defender...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Maybe not, at least in this beta build. See
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Urban wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> It asks, of course, for you to uninstall any other anti virus program.
>>> That
>>> is just good practice.
>>>
>>> It disables Windows Defender because those capabilities are apparently
>>> built-in to the new software.
>>>
>>> I still have MalwareBytes and ThreatFire on my system with no complaints
>>> or
>>> nasty interaction. They both continue to function.
>>>
>>>> It is a Beta and it is asking to uninstall any and all presently
>>>> installed
>>>> Anti Virus and Security programs when installing it. Nor knowing how
>>>> well
>>>> it flags malware and or virus it is a bit of a gamble at this time.
>>>> Anyway
>>>> that is my opinion
>>>>
>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> <SNIP> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

....is an interesting read.


....lowermost comment is interesting.



regards, Richard


"Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:100F84D8-6D98-478C-83C4-DE5A87028FBA@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Just put this on perspective.... Microsoft already have published "3
> previous security products ( defender/onecare/forefront ), who would
> better know how to protect the windows system than the creators of it as
> well right ( logical ).
>
> "Heinz Schmitz" <HeinzSchmitz@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:fvjp35lagjvd65iio66st9u18tl71napfp@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "someone" wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>I'm certainly not going to test a beta project, but when MSE is rolled
>>>out
>>>next year, should I remove my current AV, which is AVG-pro?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Somehow I seem to remember, that it is not recommended
>> to rely on a MS product before its third edition .
>>
>> Regards,
>> H.
>>
>>
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Do you get bonuses for being a MS shill, Milo?

Milo wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Why are you guys so bitter wait here....
>
> tell me if am wrong with this link (see below)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> June 19, 2009
> Pigs fly! Microsoft leads in security
> Microsoft's success with Security Development Lifecycle has security
> experts
> buzzing and offers lessons -- along with a heap of free resources -- for
> your company
> Talk about a turnaround. It's always hard to recognize the larger,
> slow-moving paradigm shifts as they happen. But after a decade of bad
> press
> regarding its commitment to software security, Microsoft seems to have
> turned the tide. Redmond is getting consistent security accolades these
> days, often from the very critics who used to call it out. Many of the
> world's most knowledgeable security experts are urging their favorite
> software vendors to follow in the footsteps of Microsoft.
> Haters will always continue hating, but the technical press is giving a
> lot
> of favorable coverage to Microsoft's successful efforts to make itself a
> computer software security leader. Here are some recent examples:
>
> "Microsoft for a long time rightly got a bad reputation for insecure
> products. However, as an industry we should recognize the sea change in
> Microsoft's approach to security, of which this [Microsoft's plans to
> share
> its Security Development Lifecycle process components] is just one
> example,
> and encourage other vendors to follow Microsoft's lead." -- SANS NewsBites
>
> [ Roger Grimes lays bare two of the most vulnerable components of Internet
> security: software and Web browsers | Learn how to secure your systems
> with
> Security Adviser newsletter. ]
>
> "Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development." -- CNET
>
> "When I first started writing about information security five years ago,
> all
> a writer had to do was mention Microsoft in the same headline space as
> 'security vulnerability' to strike page-view gold. In 2004 Microsoft was a
> couple years into its Trustworthy Computing Initiative but it remained the
> software company IT security practitioners hated with glee.... That's not
> so
> much the case today." -- Computerworld
>
> "'This [Windows 7 new memory protection] is smart,' said Charlie Miller,
> who
> as principal analyst at Independent Security Evaluators has successfully
> exploited weaknesses in Windows, OS X, and Linux. 'I think they're
> [Microsoft] trying to stay ahead of the curve.'" -- The Register
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now mind telling me david if the logic is not reasonable
>
> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> news:#8TPeHE9JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> From: "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Just put this on perspective.... Microsoft already have published "3
>>> previous security products ( defender/onecare/forefront ), who would
>>> better know how to protect the windows system than the creators of it as
>>> well right ( logical ).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad.
>>
>> Microsoft -- The wolf should not be guarding the henhouse.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>>
>> Multi-AV - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

hahaha Actually not PA, I've been here long enough to know the IT security
sector that much to see who would be just a talk and who does the walk -
hahaha Look it up on google and tell me if am really am as you allege an MS
shill, you'd be awed - it just feel good to be open minded in life just like
being at work.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O8C10Eb9JHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Do you get bonuses for being a MS shill, Milo?
>
> Milo wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Why are you guys so bitter wait here....
>>
>> tell me if am wrong with this link (see below)
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> June 19, 2009
>> Pigs fly! Microsoft leads in security
>> Microsoft's success with Security Development Lifecycle has security
>> experts
>> buzzing and offers lessons -- along with a heap of free resources -- for
>> your company
>> Talk about a turnaround. It's always hard to recognize the larger,
>> slow-moving paradigm shifts as they happen. But after a decade of bad
>> press
>> regarding its commitment to software security, Microsoft seems to have
>> turned the tide. Redmond is getting consistent security accolades these
>> days, often from the very critics who used to call it out. Many of the
>> world's most knowledgeable security experts are urging their favorite
>> software vendors to follow in the footsteps of Microsoft.
>> Haters will always continue hating, but the technical press is giving a
>> lot
>> of favorable coverage to Microsoft's successful efforts to make itself a
>> computer software security leader. Here are some recent examples:
>>
>> "Microsoft for a long time rightly got a bad reputation for insecure
>> products. However, as an industry we should recognize the sea change in
>> Microsoft's approach to security, of which this [Microsoft's plans to
>> share
>> its Security Development Lifecycle process components] is just one
>> example,
>> and encourage other vendors to follow Microsoft's lead." -- SANS
>> NewsBites
>>
>> [ Roger Grimes lays bare two of the most vulnerable components of
>> Internet
>> security: software and Web browsers | Learn how to secure your systems
>> with
>> Security Adviser newsletter. ]
>>
>> "Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development." -- CNET
>>
>> "When I first started writing about information security five years ago,
>> all
>> a writer had to do was mention Microsoft in the same headline space as
>> 'security vulnerability' to strike page-view gold. In 2004 Microsoft was
>> a
>> couple years into its Trustworthy Computing Initiative but it remained
>> the
>> software company IT security practitioners hated with glee.... That's not
>> so
>> much the case today." -- Computerworld
>>
>> "'This [Windows 7 new memory protection] is smart,' said Charlie Miller,
>> who
>> as principal analyst at Independent Security Evaluators has successfully
>> exploited weaknesses in Windows, OS X, and Linux. 'I think they're
>> [Microsoft] trying to stay ahead of the curve.'" -- The Register
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Now mind telling me david if the logic is not reasonable
>>
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:#8TPeHE9JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> From: "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Just put this on perspective.... Microsoft already have published "3
>>>> previous security products ( defender/onecare/forefront ), who would
>>>> better know how to protect the windows system than the creators of it
>>>> as
>>>> well right ( logical ).
>>>
>>> Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad.
>>>
>>> Microsoft -- The wolf should not be guarding the henhouse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Multi-AV - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

And add to that I get only to trust a proven data's, test and actual
replication than just mere speculations or hear says. Folks try that
sometimes so that you can be less bitter more often


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O8C10Eb9JHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Do you get bonuses for being a MS shill, Milo?
>
> Milo wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Why are you guys so bitter wait here....
>>
>> tell me if am wrong with this link (see below)
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> June 19, 2009
>> Pigs fly! Microsoft leads in security
>> Microsoft's success with Security Development Lifecycle has security
>> experts
>> buzzing and offers lessons -- along with a heap of free resources -- for
>> your company
>> Talk about a turnaround. It's always hard to recognize the larger,
>> slow-moving paradigm shifts as they happen. But after a decade of bad
>> press
>> regarding its commitment to software security, Microsoft seems to have
>> turned the tide. Redmond is getting consistent security accolades these
>> days, often from the very critics who used to call it out. Many of the
>> world's most knowledgeable security experts are urging their favorite
>> software vendors to follow in the footsteps of Microsoft.
>> Haters will always continue hating, but the technical press is giving a
>> lot
>> of favorable coverage to Microsoft's successful efforts to make itself a
>> computer software security leader. Here are some recent examples:
>>
>> "Microsoft for a long time rightly got a bad reputation for insecure
>> products. However, as an industry we should recognize the sea change in
>> Microsoft's approach to security, of which this [Microsoft's plans to
>> share
>> its Security Development Lifecycle process components] is just one
>> example,
>> and encourage other vendors to follow Microsoft's lead." -- SANS
>> NewsBites
>>
>> [ Roger Grimes lays bare two of the most vulnerable components of
>> Internet
>> security: software and Web browsers | Learn how to secure your systems
>> with
>> Security Adviser newsletter. ]
>>
>> "Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development." -- CNET
>>
>> "When I first started writing about information security five years ago,
>> all
>> a writer had to do was mention Microsoft in the same headline space as
>> 'security vulnerability' to strike page-view gold. In 2004 Microsoft was
>> a
>> couple years into its Trustworthy Computing Initiative but it remained
>> the
>> software company IT security practitioners hated with glee.... That's not
>> so
>> much the case today." -- Computerworld
>>
>> "'This [Windows 7 new memory protection] is smart,' said Charlie Miller,
>> who
>> as principal analyst at Independent Security Evaluators has successfully
>> exploited weaknesses in Windows, OS X, and Linux. 'I think they're
>> [Microsoft] trying to stay ahead of the curve.'" -- The Register
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Now mind telling me david if the logic is not reasonable
>>
>> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
>> news:#8TPeHE9JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> From: "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Just put this on perspective.... Microsoft already have published "3
>>>> previous security products ( defender/onecare/forefront ), who would
>>>> better know how to protect the windows system than the creators of it
>>>> as
>>>> well right ( logical ).
>>>
>>> Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad.
>>>
>>> Microsoft -- The wolf should not be guarding the henhouse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Multi-AV - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

one thing that i think will help everyone that i seem to cant find unless i
pay over 500.00 for is a protocol blocker.. reason being is that that if you
block ftp on 21 and dns on 53 and so forth, this worm will use ftp on a high
port and all sorts of other protocols including ARP, when i used the test
version, the worm could not spread.
the one i found but cant afford is colasoft's network monitor program...
it would be amazing if they added that to windows 7, cause unless those
thousands an hour incoming random IPs are responses from pings using my
machine to spread the worm, im scared that others have this worm and dont
know it...



"PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Leaked: Microsoft Security Essentials (codename Morro)
> [includes screenshots]
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

cf.


cf.


Whatever you're smoking, I hope the FBI doesn't find it when they
investigate the aliens who've taken control of your HDDs.


peace101 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> one thing that i think will help everyone that i seem to cant find unless
> i
> pay over 500.00 for is a protocol blocker.. reason being is that that if
> you
> block ftp on 21 and dns on 53 and so forth, this worm will use ftp on a
> high
> port and all sorts of other protocols including ARP, when i used the test
> version, the worm could not spread.
> the one i found but cant afford is colasoft's network monitor program...
> it would be amazing if they added that to windows 7, cause unless those
> thousands an hour incoming random IPs are responses from pings using my
> machine to spread the worm, im scared that others have this worm and dont
> know it...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<snip>