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MS Security Essentials

Discussion in 'Windows Security' started by t-4-2, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. t-4-2

    t-4-2 Guest

    Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?

    t-4-2
     
  2. "t-4-2" <dhuang1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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    > Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    > I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    > Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    > If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?
    >
    > t-4-2<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->



    No matter which antivirus program you use - you only want one program
    running as the resident, real time, protection.

    You can install Microsoft Security Essentials and then disable the real time
    protection. You can then "try" to install another program of your choice.
    Note that many check for previous programs and will refuse to install if one
    is present.

    I have installed MSE on my computers and on every computer I have worked on
    for the past 6 weeks.

    I have gone to some really nasty web sites - on purpose - just to see how it
    does. So far my personal computer remains clean - to my knowledge. But
    remember, no one can claim that they are 100% certain that there are no "bad
    boys" lurking in the depths of their operating system. There could be root
    kits that we are unaware of and are not detected by anyone, as of yet.

    After going to these sites and then using the computer for a few days - I
    revert back to a known clean image - one that was built up without visiting
    any web site. The only activity was to use Windows Update from within either
    Vista or Windows 7.

    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience & Security
     
  3. Jim

    Jim Guest

    On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:14:36 -0400, "t-4-2" <dhuang1@cogeco.ca> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    >I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    >Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    >If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?
    >
    >t-4-2 <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yes , which is why I`m keeping what I have installed .
     
  4. t-4-2

    t-4-2 Guest

    Thank you.
    t-4-2

    "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eXVWlU#TKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "t-4-2" <dhuang1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
    > news:uRS7Cm6TKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    >> I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    >> Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    >> If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?
    >>
    >> t-4-2<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    >
    > No matter which antivirus program you use - you only want one program
    > running as the resident, real time, protection.
    >
    > You can install Microsoft Security Essentials and then disable the real
    > time protection. You can then "try" to install another program of your
    > choice. Note that many check for previous programs and will refuse to
    > install if one is present.
    >
    > I have installed MSE on my computers and on every computer I have worked
    > on for the past 6 weeks.
    >
    > I have gone to some really nasty web sites - on purpose - just to see how
    > it does. So far my personal computer remains clean - to my knowledge. But
    > remember, no one can claim that they are 100% certain that there are no
    > "bad boys" lurking in the depths of their operating system. There could be
    > root kits that we are unaware of and are not detected by anyone, as of
    > yet.
    >
    > After going to these sites and then using the computer for a few days - I
    > revert back to a known clean image - one that was built up without
    > visiting any web site. The only activity was to use Windows Update from
    > within either Vista or Windows 7.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Richard Urban
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience & Security
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Hank Arnold

    Hank Arnold Guest

    t-4-2 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    > I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    > Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    > If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?
    >
    > t-4-2<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You shouldn't have more than one AV program installed.

    From what I've read so far, the only reason to switch from an existing
    program would be that MSSE is free.

    --

    Regards,
    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services
     
  6. "Hank Arnold" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:%23s5AraJUKHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > t-4-2 wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM
    >> I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    >> Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    >> If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?
    >>
    >> t-4-2<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You shouldn't have more than one AV program installed.
    >
    > From what I've read so far, the only reason to switch from an existing
    > program would be that MSSE is free.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Regards,
    > Hank Arnold
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Server - Directory Services
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Windows 7 Support. Not all the AV vendors have their Windows 7 versions
    ready.

    Mike Ober.
     
  7. Beckett

    Beckett Guest

    On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:32:14 -0400, Hank Arnold <rasilon@aol.com>
    wrote:

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > From what I've read so far, the only reason to switch from an existing
    >program would be that MSSE is free.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    So is Avira, Avast and AVG. I was using MSSE but have gone back to
    Avira now because it is lighter on resources and also gets very high
    marks for detection rate.
     
  8. NT Canuck

    NT Canuck Guest

    "t-4-2" <dhuang1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
    news:uRS7Cm6TKHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Vista Home premium SP2, IE8, WLM<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have Avast! and Spybot Search&Destroy.
    > Would like to hear opinions about MS Security Essentials.
    > If I do decide to install MSSE, do I need to uninstall what I have ?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    I can tell you that Avast keeps a log separate under the
    eventlog viewer, and if it crashes (which it will sooner
    or later just as they all do) you can goto the add/remove
    programs and 'repair' the critter...but only limps then if
    under a real attack/corruption/invasion.

    Spybot isn't much better, nothing can by itself sustain
    against a cavalier attitude online, you must be vigilant,
    and even then...keep a full backup of OS/programs off
    the HDD and place on DVD or separated HDD.

    Avast doesn't uninstall clean...leaves about 200
    registry entries behind (that can leave problems)
    Spybot leaves around 70 entries in registry.
    Every time you install/trial/test an A/V or spyware/
    Trojan program they cut, slice, and dice their
    way into the registry often altering legitimate
    pathways and hooking all kinds of processes.

    Those items need to be diligently cleaned even
    after an uninstal...folders, files, and entries..
    there is no auto anything that does this correctly.
    A 'clean slate' is absolutely essential for the
    installation and running of any new/different
    A/V or spy/Trojan program...or that can cause
    problems just as severe as any infection.

    'Seek and ye shall find'
    NT Canuck
     

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