may i ask the Ms folks; What Is UP ??

i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is well
know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User Consumers?

obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
Priority security package.

can't MS simple let its users know via the MS Update site or by some needs
that there is a problem: that MS is working on it; that the security updates
will be delayed; that nobody likes that but ever one does understand the
things happen; sometimes one encounters problems in life?

but from what i have seen to date, Friday, 11:00 CDT in the USA there is no
word from MS.

even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on. again,
no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
any thing.

come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell us?
Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act to
the matter.
Do you think we are going to leave you?
PLEaSE ...

 

What problem is it that they should make us aware of? Out of almost 50
machines being updated here, all were flawless.

"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...
:i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is well
: know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
Consumers?
:
: obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
: Priority security package.
:
: can't MS simple let its users know via the MS Update site or by some needs
: that there is a problem: that MS is working on it; that the security
updates
: will be delayed; that nobody likes that but ever one does understand the
: things happen; sometimes one encounters problems in life?
:
: but from what i have seen to date, Friday, 11:00 CDT in the USA there is
no
: word from MS.
:
: even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
again,
: no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
: engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
: any thing.
:
: come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
: IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell
us?
: Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act
to
: the matter.
: Do you think we are going to leave you?
: PLEaSE ...

 

Something you should know.....
This and other newsgroups are NOT Microsoft. People show up here to help
others with computer problems, strictly in volunteer basis.
None of us works for Microsoft either.
If you wish to voice your displeasure to Microsoft, do this ....
Menu Bar at the top, click HELP > click Send feedback. Now you can tell
them how you feel.

t-4-2



<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
> again,
> no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
> engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
> any thing.
>
> come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
> IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell
> us?
> Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act
> to
> the matter.
> Do you think we are going to leave you?
> PLEaSE ... <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

last 12-item High
Priority security package.

What is that specifically?

ptmx2 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is well
> know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User Consumers?
>
> obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> Priority security package.
>
> can't MS simple let its users know via the MS Update site or by some needs
> that there is a problem: that MS is working on it; that the security updates
> will be delayed; that nobody likes that but ever one does understand the
> things happen; sometimes one encounters problems in life?
>
> but from what i have seen to date, Friday, 11:00 CDT in the USA there is no
> word from MS.
>
> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on. again,
> no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
> engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
> any thing.
>
> come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
> IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell us?
> Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act to
> the matter.
> Do you think we are going to leave you?
> PLEaSE ...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is
> well
> know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
> Consumers?
>
> obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> Priority security package.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It's not obvious to me at all. I updated all the machines at work and my
home
machines with no problems. Nor have I seen messages from users
(except you, of course) who had a problem with it.

Tom Lake

 

No one here represents or works for Microsoft. You may gain the attention
of an MS engineer if you post here:


Or see the "How to obtain help" section of
and/or

--
~PA Bear



ptmx2 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is
> well
> know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
> Consumers?
>
> obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> Priority security package.
>
> can't MS simple let its users know via the MS Update site or by some needs
> that there is a problem: that MS is working on it; that the security
> updates
> will be delayed; that nobody likes that but ever one does understand the
> things happen; sometimes one encounters problems in life?
>
> but from what i have seen to date, Friday, 11:00 CDT in the USA there is
> no
> word from MS.
>
> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
> again,
> no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
> engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
> any thing.
>
> come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
> IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell
> us?
> Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act
> to
> the matter.
> Do you think we are going to leave you?
> PLEaSE ... <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

A number of people have described this failure to update this one critical
security fix. Only after spending several hours trying unsuccessfully to
resolve this problem on my two computers did I resort to this forum. And, I
agree that there are many more who are battling the problem but who have yet
to raise their heads and say, "What's up, MS?" So, now I'm off to contact MS
support and see what help they may be.

"Tom Lake" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is
> > well
> > know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
> > Consumers?
> >
> > obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> > Priority security package.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> It's not obvious to me at all. I updated all the machines at work and my
> home
> machines with no problems. Nor have I seen messages from users
> (except you, of course) who had a problem with it.
>
> Tom Lake
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

SUCCESS! Following the suggestion of someone on another thread, I uninstalled
dot net version 1.1, shut down, rebooted, then went back to the Microsoft
Update
update page. After it scanned, it showed no critical updates (not even
KB953297) but, under optionl software, showed dot net version 1.1. So, I
installed it and rebooted again. Back to Microsoft Update and it, again,
showed KB953297 as a critical udate. I directed its installation and this
time it installed correctly. Hope this helps others.
"rolandthunder" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> A number of people have described this failure to update this one critical
> security fix. Only after spending several hours trying unsuccessfully to
> resolve this problem on my two computers did I resort to this forum. And, I
> agree that there are many more who are battling the problem but who have yet
> to raise their heads and say, "What's up, MS?" So, now I'm off to contact MS
> support and see what help they may be.
>
> "Tom Lake" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >
> > "ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is
> > > well
> > > know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
> > > Consumers?
> > >
> > > obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> > > Priority security package.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> > It's not obvious to me at all. I updated all the machines at work and my
> > home
> > machines with no problems. Nor have I seen messages from users
> > (except you, of course) who had a problem with it.
> >
> > Tom Lake
> > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

ptmx2 wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on. again,
>no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
>engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that changes
>any thing.
>
>
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
MVP's are a complete waste of time. If you need any help then you need
to post the question generally and to specifically request MVPs not to
bother with it. If you don't, you will get Pig-Bear who will abuse you
or question your authenticity. To him you are a dodgy character using a
dodgy software unless you prove otherwise.

 

Harsh comment to whomever you are.

If you are referring to the .net issues.... it's STUPID .NET
and there's nothing that all of us volunteers can do.

The best advice I can give is to google on Aaron Stebner's .net removal
tool and reinstall.

We don't code this stuff, we just try to help folks.

ANONYMOUS wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> ptmx2 wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
>> again, no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have
>> actually engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if
>> that changes any thing.
>>
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> MVP's are a complete waste of time. If you need any help then you need
> to post the question generally and to specifically request MVPs not to
> bother with it. If you don't, you will get Pig-Bear who will abuse you
> or question your authenticity. To him you are a dodgy character using a
> dodgy software unless you prove otherwise.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Susan Bradley wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> We don't code this stuff, we just try to help folks.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

But you can't read properly so how can you help the "folks"?

 

Bite me!
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> ANONYMOUS wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> MVP's are a complete waste of time. If you need any help then you need
>> to post the question generally and to specifically request MVPs not to
>> bother with it. If you don't, you will get Pig-Bear who will abuse you
>> or question your authenticity. To him you are a dodgy character using a
>> dodgy software unless you prove otherwise.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

where and how do you uninstall .Net Framework 1.1 service Park security
Update??I too have same problem with installing KB953297,when i go to ADD and
Remove i cannot specifically see that update? Should i just uninstall .Net
Framework 1.1??
bigalster

"rolandthunder" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> SUCCESS! Following the suggestion of someone on another thread, I uninstalled
> dot net version 1.1, shut down, rebooted, then went back to the Microsoft
> Update
> update page. After it scanned, it showed no critical updates (not even
> KB953297) but, under optionl software, showed dot net version 1.1. So, I
> installed it and rebooted again. Back to Microsoft Update and it, again,
> showed KB953297 as a critical udate. I directed its installation and this
> time it installed correctly. Hope this helps others.
> "rolandthunder" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > A number of people have described this failure to update this one critical
> > security fix. Only after spending several hours trying unsuccessfully to
> > resolve this problem on my two computers did I resort to this forum. And, I
> > agree that there are many more who are battling the problem but who have yet
> > to raise their heads and say, "What's up, MS?" So, now I'm off to contact MS
> > support and see what help they may be.
> >
> > "Tom Lake" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >
> > > "ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...
> > > > i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates is
> > > > well
> > > > know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
> > > > Consumers?
> > > >
> > > > obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last 12-item High
> > > > Priority security package.
> > >
> > > It's not obvious to me at all. I updated all the machines at work and my
> > > home
> > > machines with no problems. Nor have I seen messages from users
> > > (except you, of course) who had a problem with it.
> > >
> > > Tom Lake
> > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

How nice if one could send feedback that way. Doesn't work in OE6. LOL



"t-4-2" <dhuang1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:OJVLT6nTKHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Something you should know.....
> This and other newsgroups are NOT Microsoft. People show up here to help
> others with computer problems, strictly in volunteer basis.
> None of us works for Microsoft either.
> If you wish to voice your displeasure to Microsoft, do this ....
> Menu Bar at the top, click HELP > click Send feedback. Now you can tell
> them how you feel.
>
> t-4-2
>
>
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
>> again,
>> no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have actually
>> engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if that
>> changes
>> any thing.
>>
>> come on MS folks; tell US what is going on.
>> IF, for some reason there IS a Problem, as in a real PROBLEM; then tell
>> us?
>> Let each user be informed and make one's own decision about how to re-act
>> to
>> the matter.
>> Do you think we are going to leave you?
>> PLEaSE ...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Several users at dslreports security forum who had this problem reported
that if you uninstall . NET Framework 1.1 that will take the problematic
security update with it. Others couldn't see it either.

I went to install the patch for .NET 1.1 SP1 only to be told by the
installer that I don't have SP1 for .NET 1.1 installed. I do have SP1
installed!

"bigalster" <bigalster@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9D298AE2-D5FC-4A00-8E89-BF37BBADBD73@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> where and how do you uninstall .Net Framework 1.1 service Park security
> Update??I too have same problem with installing KB953297,when i go to ADD
> and
> Remove i cannot specifically see that update? Should i just uninstall .Net
> Framework 1.1??
> bigalster
>
> "rolandthunder" wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> SUCCESS! Following the suggestion of someone on another thread, I
>> uninstalled
>> dot net version 1.1, shut down, rebooted, then went back to the Microsoft
>> Update
>> update page. After it scanned, it showed no critical updates (not even
>> KB953297) but, under optionl software, showed dot net version 1.1. So, I
>> installed it and rebooted again. Back to Microsoft Update and it, again,
>> showed KB953297 as a critical udate. I directed its installation and this
>> time it installed correctly. Hope this helps others.
>> "rolandthunder" wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > A number of people have described this failure to update this one
>> > critical
>> > security fix. Only after spending several hours trying unsuccessfully
>> > to
>> > resolve this problem on my two computers did I resort to this forum.
>> > And, I
>> > agree that there are many more who are battling the problem but who
>> > have yet
>> > to raise their heads and say, "What's up, MS?" So, now I'm off to
>> > contact MS
>> > support and see what help they may be.
>> >
>> > "Tom Lake" wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > "ptmx2" <ptmx2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:91F03D53-0857-4DBC-9AA8-0F13127A261D@microsoft.com...
>> > > > i am sure whatever major problem MS is experiencing with MS Updates
>> > > > is
>> > > > well
>> > > > know by someone and those in know; but how about us poor End User
>> > > > Consumers?
>> > > >
>> > > > obviously I am Not the only one having trouble with the last
>> > > > 12-item High
>> > > > Priority security package.
>> > >
>> > > It's not obvious to me at all. I updated all the machines at work
>> > > and my
>> > > home
>> > > machines with no problems. Nor have I seen messages from users
>> > > (except you, of course) who had a problem with it.
>> > >
>> > > Tom Lake
>> > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I second Aaron Stebner's .NET tools. He is great and helped me by email more
than once with a .NET3.0 problem.

I agree also about .NET itself. I got so frustrated a few months ago, I
removed .NET 3.0 and 2.0 and have only 1.1SP1 which came installed on this
computer.

"Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:ONvP1$qTKHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Harsh comment to whomever you are.
>
> If you are referring to the .net issues.... it's STUPID .NET
> and there's nothing that all of us volunteers can do.
>
> The best advice I can give is to google on Aaron Stebner's .net removal
> tool and reinstall.
>
> We don't code this stuff, we just try to help folks.
>
> ANONYMOUS wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> ptmx2 wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> even the MVP's don't appear to know or want to say what is going on.
>>> again, no problem. everyone can understand that. yet some MVP's have
>>> actually engaged by correcting mis-placed posts about this issue as if
>>> that changes any thing.
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> MVP's are a complete waste of time. If you need any help then you need
>> to post the question generally and to specifically request MVPs not to
>> bother with it. If you don't, you will get Pig-Bear who will abuse you
>> or question your authenticity. To him you are a dodgy character using a
>> dodgy software unless you prove otherwise.
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->