Installing Services on a Server that's been Service Packed

Hi,
I think maybe my question below was a little too long so I'll shorten it...

Basically, if I've got a Windows Server 2003 that's on SP2 and I then
install extra servcies (e.g. IIS, DHCP, whatever) and it asks for the
installation CD or files, is it ok to point it to the original Windows
Server 2003 CD? Or could it potentially mess things up as it's had servcie
packs and hotfixes on it since the original install and maybe it would put
out of date drivers or software on from the original CD?

Does the operating system take care of this in some way or do I need to get
hold of whichever service pack the server is running and point it to files
on that?

Thanks,
Pete.





Original Question Below:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello there,

I've just started a new role which requires me to go into companies and
install third party software on Microsoft Windows Servers (2000, 2003, etc.)
so that various new systems can be implemented for that company.

Some of the software I install has prerequisites of the Windows Server, for
example that IIS, IAS, Microsoft Message Queue, .NET framework, DHCP Server
or whatever is installed for the third party software to function correctly.

Sometimes these prerequisite services are installed but more often one or
more will need installing on the Windows Server.

I was wondering what the correct course of action should be if the Windows
Servers asks to be pointed to the Windows installation files (I can't
remember the exact message - maybe something to do with an i386 folder or
the installation CD or files).

What I'm getting at is this - if the server is a base build and has had no
service packs on then pointing to the original installation CD would be
fine, but what if the server has had one or more service packs on it? If
you give it the original installation CD when it asks then won't it be
putting on old software and drivers which may cause a problem?

If installation files are asked for then does the i386 folder on the machine
contain the files from the latest service pack and so it would be fine to
point to this? Or should I first find out the spec and SP level of the
server and obtain a copy of the relevant service pack that the server is
running and carry it with me, then point to these files if asked for
installation files?

And then what about hot fixes and security updates? If the server has had
updates since the last service pack (quite likely) then even pointing to the
files in the service pack that the server is running might get out of date
files and drivers might it?

Is there a best practice for installing extra MS Server services and
applications with regards to where to get the files from when it asks?

Any advice appreciated,
Thanks,
Pete.

P.s. Please reply to the group as I've not put my correct e-mail address in
this accout for fear of more spam.

 

Hello Pete,

If some files are required you get the info which disk is needed, either
the original install or the SP disk. So no problem just read carefully which
version is required and insert it. The OS takes care that the most up to
date files are used. No need to reinstall a SP as in NT versions.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!!

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> Hi,
> I think maybe my question below was a little too long so I'll shorten
> it...
> Basically, if I've got a Windows Server 2003 that's on SP2 and I then
> install extra servcies (e.g. IIS, DHCP, whatever) and it asks for the
> installation CD or files, is it ok to point it to the original Windows
> Server 2003 CD? Or could it potentially mess things up as it's had
> servcie packs and hotfixes on it since the original install and maybe
> it would put out of date drivers or software on from the original CD?
>
> Does the operating system take care of this in some way or do I need
> to get hold of whichever service pack the server is running and point
> it to files on that?
>
> Thanks,
> Pete.
> Original Question Below:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- Hello there,
>
> I've just started a new role which requires me to go into companies
> and install third party software on Microsoft Windows Servers (2000,
> 2003, etc.) so that various new systems can be implemented for that
> company.
>
> Some of the software I install has prerequisites of the Windows
> Server, for example that IIS, IAS, Microsoft Message Queue, .NET
> framework, DHCP Server or whatever is installed for the third party
> software to function correctly.
>
> Sometimes these prerequisite services are installed but more often one
> or more will need installing on the Windows Server.
>
> I was wondering what the correct course of action should be if the
> Windows Servers asks to be pointed to the Windows installation files
> (I can't remember the exact message - maybe something to do with an
> i386 folder or the installation CD or files).
>
> What I'm getting at is this - if the server is a base build and has
> had no service packs on then pointing to the original installation CD
> would be fine, but what if the server has had one or more service
> packs on it? If you give it the original installation CD when it asks
> then won't it be putting on old software and drivers which may cause a
> problem?
>
> If installation files are asked for then does the i386 folder on the
> machine contain the files from the latest service pack and so it would
> be fine to point to this? Or should I first find out the spec and SP
> level of the server and obtain a copy of the relevant service pack
> that the server is running and carry it with me, then point to these
> files if asked for installation files?
>
> And then what about hot fixes and security updates? If the server has
> had updates since the last service pack (quite likely) then even
> pointing to the files in the service pack that the server is running
> might get out of date files and drivers might it?
>
> Is there a best practice for installing extra MS Server services and
> applications with regards to where to get the files from when it asks?
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Thanks,
> Pete.
> P.s. Please reply to the group as I've not put my correct e-mail
> address in this accout for fear of more spam.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Excellent, thanks Meinolf,
that's a relief!

Cheers,
Pete.


"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
news:6cb2911d6b3f8cc10b6981dabd0@msnews.microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hello Pete,
>
> If some files are required you get the info which disk is needed, either
> the original install or the SP disk. So no problem just read carefully
> which version is required and insert it. The OS takes care that the most
> up to date files are used. No need to reinstall a SP as in NT versions.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!!
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi,
>> I think maybe my question below was a little too long so I'll shorten
>> it...
>> Basically, if I've got a Windows Server 2003 that's on SP2 and I then
>> install extra servcies (e.g. IIS, DHCP, whatever) and it asks for the
>> installation CD or files, is it ok to point it to the original Windows
>> Server 2003 CD? Or could it potentially mess things up as it's had
>> servcie packs and hotfixes on it since the original install and maybe
>> it would put out of date drivers or software on from the original CD?
>>
>> Does the operating system take care of this in some way or do I need
>> to get hold of whichever service pack the server is running and point
>> it to files on that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pete.
>> Original Question Below:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -- Hello there,
>>
>> I've just started a new role which requires me to go into companies
>> and install third party software on Microsoft Windows Servers (2000,
>> 2003, etc.) so that various new systems can be implemented for that
>> company.
>>
>> Some of the software I install has prerequisites of the Windows
>> Server, for example that IIS, IAS, Microsoft Message Queue, .NET
>> framework, DHCP Server or whatever is installed for the third party
>> software to function correctly.
>>
>> Sometimes these prerequisite services are installed but more often one
>> or more will need installing on the Windows Server.
>>
>> I was wondering what the correct course of action should be if the
>> Windows Servers asks to be pointed to the Windows installation files
>> (I can't remember the exact message - maybe something to do with an
>> i386 folder or the installation CD or files).
>>
>> What I'm getting at is this - if the server is a base build and has
>> had no service packs on then pointing to the original installation CD
>> would be fine, but what if the server has had one or more service
>> packs on it? If you give it the original installation CD when it asks
>> then won't it be putting on old software and drivers which may cause a
>> problem?
>>
>> If installation files are asked for then does the i386 folder on the
>> machine contain the files from the latest service pack and so it would
>> be fine to point to this? Or should I first find out the spec and SP
>> level of the server and obtain a copy of the relevant service pack
>> that the server is running and carry it with me, then point to these
>> files if asked for installation files?
>>
>> And then what about hot fixes and security updates? If the server has
>> had updates since the last service pack (quite likely) then even
>> pointing to the files in the service pack that the server is running
>> might get out of date files and drivers might it?
>>
>> Is there a best practice for installing extra MS Server services and
>> applications with regards to where to get the files from when it asks?
>>
>> Any advice appreciated,
>> Thanks,
>> Pete.
>> P.s. Please reply to the group as I've not put my correct e-mail
>> address in this accout for fear of more spam.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Hello Pete,

You're welcome.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!!

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Excellent, thanks Meinolf,
> that's a relief!
> Cheers,
> Pete.
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:6cb2911d6b3f8cc10b6981dabd0@msnews.microsoft.com...
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hello Pete,
>>
>> If some files are required you get the info which disk is needed,
>> either the original install or the SP disk. So no problem just read
>> carefully which version is required and insert it. The OS takes care
>> that the most up to date files are used. No need to reinstall a SP as
>> in NT versions.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Hi,
>>> I think maybe my question below was a little too long so I'll
>>> shorten
>>> it...
>>> Basically, if I've got a Windows Server 2003 that's on SP2 and I
>>> then
>>> install extra servcies (e.g. IIS, DHCP, whatever) and it asks for
>>> the
>>> installation CD or files, is it ok to point it to the original
>>> Windows
>>> Server 2003 CD? Or could it potentially mess things up as it's had
>>> servcie packs and hotfixes on it since the original install and
>>> maybe
>>> it would put out of date drivers or software on from the original
>>> CD?
>>> Does the operating system take care of this in some way or do I need
>>> to get hold of whichever service pack the server is running and
>>> point it to files on that?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pete.
>>> Original Question Below:
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> --
>>> -- Hello there,
>>> I've just started a new role which requires me to go into companies
>>> and install third party software on Microsoft Windows Servers (2000,
>>> 2003, etc.) so that various new systems can be implemented for that
>>> company.
>>>
>>> Some of the software I install has prerequisites of the Windows
>>> Server, for example that IIS, IAS, Microsoft Message Queue, .NET
>>> framework, DHCP Server or whatever is installed for the third party
>>> software to function correctly.
>>>
>>> Sometimes these prerequisite services are installed but more often
>>> one or more will need installing on the Windows Server.
>>>
>>> I was wondering what the correct course of action should be if the
>>> Windows Servers asks to be pointed to the Windows installation files
>>> (I can't remember the exact message - maybe something to do with an
>>> i386 folder or the installation CD or files).
>>>
>>> What I'm getting at is this - if the server is a base build and has
>>> had no service packs on then pointing to the original installation
>>> CD would be fine, but what if the server has had one or more service
>>> packs on it? If you give it the original installation CD when it
>>> asks then won't it be putting on old software and drivers which may
>>> cause a problem?
>>>
>>> If installation files are asked for then does the i386 folder on the
>>> machine contain the files from the latest service pack and so it
>>> would be fine to point to this? Or should I first find out the spec
>>> and SP level of the server and obtain a copy of the relevant service
>>> pack that the server is running and carry it with me, then point to
>>> these files if asked for installation files?
>>>
>>> And then what about hot fixes and security updates? If the server
>>> has had updates since the last service pack (quite likely) then even
>>> pointing to the files in the service pack that the server is running
>>> might get out of date files and drivers might it?
>>>
>>> Is there a best practice for installing extra MS Server services and
>>> applications with regards to where to get the files from when it
>>> asks?
>>>
>>> Any advice appreciated,
>>> Thanks,
>>> Pete.
>>> P.s. Please reply to the group as I've not put my correct e-mail
>>> address in this accout for fear of more spam.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Pete wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi,
> I think maybe my question below was a little too long so I'll shorten it...
>
> Basically, if I've got a Windows Server 2003 that's on SP2 and I then
> install extra servcies (e.g. IIS, DHCP, whatever) and it asks for the
> installation CD or files, is it ok to point it to the original Windows
> Server 2003 CD? Or could it potentially mess things up as it's had servcie
> packs and hotfixes on it since the original install and maybe it would put
> out of date drivers or software on from the original CD?
>
> Does the operating system take care of this in some way or do I need to get
> hold of whichever service pack the server is running and point it to files
> on that?
>
> Thanks,
> Pete.
>
>
>
>
>
> Original Question Below:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hello there,
>
> I've just started a new role which requires me to go into companies and
> install third party software on Microsoft Windows Servers (2000, 2003, etc.)
> so that various new systems can be implemented for that company.
>
> Some of the software I install has prerequisites of the Windows Server, for
> example that IIS, IAS, Microsoft Message Queue, .NET framework, DHCP Server
> or whatever is installed for the third party software to function correctly.
>
> Sometimes these prerequisite services are installed but more often one or
> more will need installing on the Windows Server.
>
> I was wondering what the correct course of action should be if the Windows
> Servers asks to be pointed to the Windows installation files (I can't
> remember the exact message - maybe something to do with an i386 folder or
> the installation CD or files).
>
> What I'm getting at is this - if the server is a base build and has had no
> service packs on then pointing to the original installation CD would be
> fine, but what if the server has had one or more service packs on it? If
> you give it the original installation CD when it asks then won't it be
> putting on old software and drivers which may cause a problem?
>
> If installation files are asked for then does the i386 folder on the machine
> contain the files from the latest service pack and so it would be fine to
> point to this? Or should I first find out the spec and SP level of the
> server and obtain a copy of the relevant service pack that the server is
> running and carry it with me, then point to these files if asked for
> installation files?
>
> And then what about hot fixes and security updates? If the server has had
> updates since the last service pack (quite likely) then even pointing to the
> files in the service pack that the server is running might get out of date
> files and drivers might it?
>
> Is there a best practice for installing extra MS Server services and
> applications with regards to where to get the files from when it asks?
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Thanks,
> Pete.
>
> P.s. Please reply to the group as I've not put my correct e-mail address in
> this accout for fear of more spam.
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Just run the install. Once it's complete, I would do a Microsoft Update
(or check in with your WSUS/SMS/etc. server) to make sure everything is
up to date.

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services