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how to setup dsl on Win98

Discussion in 'Microsoft Windows' started by Urge, May 11, 2009.

  1. Urge

    Urge Guest

    My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him several
    years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at home for
    another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they say he
    needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning of this
    year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I know it can
    be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I missing? Shouldn't
    I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it will
    work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.

    Bill
     
  2. Buffalo

    Buffalo Guest

    Urge wrote:
    > My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him
    > several years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has
    > at home for another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with
    > Win98se (they say he needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up
    > til the beginning of this year that was Win98se and it went online
    > thru a DSL modem so I know it can be done(unfortunately, I don't
    > remember how). What am I missing? Shouldn't I be able to just
    > configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it will work? Any
    > advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >
    > Bill


    I believe so, as long as you don't install the ISP software.
     
  3. thanatoid

    thanatoid Guest

    "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote in
    news:#Z2W9Cp0JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

    > My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I
    > sent him several years ago. He wants to hook it up to a
    > DSL modem that he has at home for another computer. His
    > ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they say he needs
    > WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning
    > of this year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL
    > modem so I know it can be done(unfortunately, I don't
    > remember how). What am I missing? Shouldn't I be able to
    > just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it will
    > work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >
    > Bill


    Get the basic config and IP addresses from an ISP tech on the
    phone and have him help you run some pings etc to make sure it
    works in DOS. Install network drivers for your network adapter
    in the machine. Connect to the site of the manufacturer of the
    DSL modem to set up the firewall. In spite of advice to the
    contrary, I continue to use the firewall on my computer as well,
    and I have not had any conflicts.

    There is a /fantastic/ little utility (9x/ME only) which fixes
    winsock-configuration-related errors like magic. Such config
    problems may still make it impossible for you to connect.

    You get it here:
    http://www.bu.edu/pcsc/internetaccess/winsock2fix.html

    --
    Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
    are suitable, but will Pam secure that?
     
  4. Bill, I still use 98SE as my primary OS and have DSL!

    Here's my setup, perhaps providing it can help your brother.

    DSL line is plugged into a NAT router made by Speedstream, model # 6520.
    I think the router must be configured somehow so it talks to the ISP
    (maybe needs some specific address information programmed in?)

    This router has ethernet ports and a wireless antenna, therefore he can
    either take a network cable and plug it into his computer and router OR
    he can buy a wireless modem and plug his PC into the modem. The wireless
    modem (I use a Buffalo Air Station Ethernet Converter model
    WLI-TX4-G54HP) will talk with the router to made internet connections.

    You do NOT need special software for this configuration to work
    therefore it doesn't matter if you have Win98, Win95, Linux, Win7,
    WinXP, W2K (I have ALL of them and they ALL work with my DSL setups --
    NO special software required from the ISP)!

    You said the computer has a NIC. Does it work properly? If so, as I
    recall (it's been a while since setting one of these up), all he'll
    likely need to do is configure IE so your dialup connectoid doesn't try
    to connect.

    ___
    "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:#Z2W9Cp0JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him

    several
    > years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at home

    for
    > another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they say

    he
    > needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning of

    this
    > year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I know it

    can
    > be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I missing?

    Shouldn't
    > I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it

    will
    > work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >
    > Bill
    >
    >
     
  5. philo

    philo Guest

    Urge wrote:
    > My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him several
    > years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at home for
    > another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they say he
    > needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning of this
    > year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I know it can
    > be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I missing? Shouldn't
    > I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it will
    > work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >
    > Bill
    >
    >




    Win98 works fine with DSL...


    However some ISP's require software that needs to be used to activate
    the account. Just tell them to manually activate it if necessary
     
  6. Urge

    Urge Guest

    So, my brothers ISP is telling him that he can do it if he buys a router. I
    don't think this is right. I did it without one. We removed his dialup
    connection, do we need to add a new connection before it will work? This is
    so frustrating! Do I need to update his NIC software? I think the driver
    for his NIC has a date from 1999.

    Bill

    "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
    news:%23yAa2rq0JHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Bill, I still use 98SE as my primary OS and have DSL!
    >
    > Here's my setup, perhaps providing it can help your brother.
    >
    > DSL line is plugged into a NAT router made by Speedstream, model # 6520.
    > I think the router must be configured somehow so it talks to the ISP
    > (maybe needs some specific address information programmed in?)
    >
    > This router has ethernet ports and a wireless antenna, therefore he can
    > either take a network cable and plug it into his computer and router OR
    > he can buy a wireless modem and plug his PC into the modem. The wireless
    > modem (I use a Buffalo Air Station Ethernet Converter model
    > WLI-TX4-G54HP) will talk with the router to made internet connections.
    >
    > You do NOT need special software for this configuration to work
    > therefore it doesn't matter if you have Win98, Win95, Linux, Win7,
    > WinXP, W2K (I have ALL of them and they ALL work with my DSL setups --
    > NO special software required from the ISP)!
    >
    > You said the computer has a NIC. Does it work properly? If so, as I
    > recall (it's been a while since setting one of these up), all he'll
    > likely need to do is configure IE so your dialup connectoid doesn't try
    > to connect.
    >
    > ___
    > "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:#Z2W9Cp0JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him

    > several
    >> years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at home

    > for
    >> another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they say

    > he
    >> needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning of

    > this
    >> year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I know it

    > can
    >> be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I missing?

    > Shouldn't
    >> I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it

    > will
    >> work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >>
    >> Bill
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
  7. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Guest

    "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote:

    >So, my brothers ISP is telling him that he can do it if he buys a router. I
    >don't think this is right. I did it without one. We removed his dialup
    >connection, do we need to add a new connection before it will work?


    No. DSL is not dial-up. There is an ethernet port on the DSL modem,
    which you'll connect to the computer's ethernet port. At that point,
    things should happen automatically: the computer will ask the phone
    company's DHCP server for the IP address and other data that it needs
    to setup a connection.

    > This is
    >so frustrating! Do I need to update his NIC software? I think the driver
    >for his NIC has a date from 1999.


    Couldn't hurt, I suppose, but IMHO it shouldn't be necessary.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    MS MVP(Shell/User)
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  8. Urge

    Urge Guest

    "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote >
    No. DSL is not dial-up. There is an ethernet port on the DSL modem,
    > which you'll connect to the computer's ethernet port. At that point,
    > things should happen automatically: the computer will ask the phone
    > company's DHCP server for the IP address and other data that it needs
    > to setup a connection.


    So, what are you saying? Just plug it in and it will work? He tried that
    and I.E. could not connect. My brother has another machine running Vista.
    What if he changed the connection from the DSL modem to the Vista machine to
    a USB conn. and then plugged in the ethernet connector(from the Vista
    machine) to the Win98 machine? He could then maybe get online thru the
    vistas connection. Would he have to setup a LAN or do internet connection
    sharing(does Vista even do ICS?).

    Bill

    >> This is
    >>so frustrating! Do I need to update his NIC software? I think the driver
    >>for his NIC has a date from 1999.

    >
    > Couldn't hurt, I suppose, but IMHO it shouldn't be necessary.
    >
    > --
    > Tim Slattery
    > MS MVP(Shell/User)
    > Slattery_T@bls.gov
    > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  9. Franc Zabkar

    Franc Zabkar Guest

    On Tue, 12 May 2009 14:35:03 -0400, "Urge"
    <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

    >So, my brothers ISP is telling him that he can do it if he buys a router. I
    >don't think this is right. I did it without one. We removed his dialup
    >connection, do we need to add a new connection before it will work? This is
    >so frustrating! Do I need to update his NIC software? I think the driver
    >for his NIC has a date from 1999.
    >
    >Bill


    Go to Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Network.

    What components do you see under the Configuration tab?

    Do you have a "TCP/IP - PCI Ethernet Adapter" or something similar?

    - Franc Zabkar
    --
    Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
     
  10. Franc Zabkar

    Franc Zabkar Guest

    On Tue, 12 May 2009 18:03:44 -0400, "Urge"
    <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

    >My brother has another machine running Vista.
    >What if he changed the connection from the DSL modem to the Vista machine to
    >a USB conn. and then plugged in the ethernet connector(from the Vista
    >machine) to the Win98 machine? He could then maybe get online thru the
    >vistas connection. Would he have to setup a LAN or do internet connection
    >sharing(does Vista even do ICS?).
    >
    >Bill


    My old ADSL modem has a USB port and an Ethernet port. If I configure
    the modem as a NAT router, then both ports can be used simultaneously
    by two different machines. You don't need ICS -- both machines will be
    on the same LAN.

    Assuming your brother's modem is similar, get him to set up the Vista
    machine using your ISP's software. Then record the various settings
    (DNS servers, etc) and transfer them to the Win98 box.

    - Franc Zabkar
    --
    Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
     
  11. On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:32:25 -0400, Urge wrote:

    > My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him several
    > years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at home
    > for another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they
    > say he needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning
    > of this year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I
    > know it can be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I
    > missing? Shouldn't I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the
    > DSL line and it will work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >
    > Bill


    What type of router does he have. Does it connect usb or through an
    ethernet adapter. USB is more problematic if the company doesn't have a
    driver for 98. In many cases the isp will not support 98 but it will
    still work. Or in the case of a modem that simply won't work with 98,
    ask for a new modem that will preferably one that connects to an ethernet
    adapter.



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    http://u-lite.org
     
  12. Bill said:

    > So, my brothers ISP is telling him that he can do it if he buys a
    > router.


    I was told I could only RENT it monthly! So it's been nearly three years
    and I've been renting it!! At the time of setup I knew basically nothing
    about DSL and what was needed to have DSL work at home so, just rented
    theirs. Besides, they told me the modem/router had to be configured
    somehow to talk with the ISP and the modem they delivered was PREsetup,
    all I had to do was connect wires. Considering I knew basically nothing,
    went with that and have been happy since! In fact I LOVE the SpeedStream
    DSL modem/router. AND it's a NAT router which means all your computer
    ports should be invisible on the internet. A PLUS considering all the
    hackers out there wanting into your PC.

    > We removed his dialup connection, do we need to add a new connection
    > before it will work?


    Don't know what you mean by "removed his dialup connection". You can
    leave everything for dialup alone (which I would do) except one thing
    MIGHT need to be changed, that is a software setting in IE.

    If your dialup in IE is set as the default connectoid and IE is set to
    "ALWAYS DIAL MY DEFAULT CONNECTION" you'll need to change it. Go to
    START, SETTINGS, Control Panel, Internet Options, Connections tab:

    click LAN settings button, make sure nothing is checked, OK
    back to connections tab, tic "Never dial a connection", OK

    -- the IDEAL is to tic "Dial whenever a network connection is not
    present" however I've found this to be problematic on occasion. What
    happens when this is tic'd is, IE should check to see if your DSL
    connection is working then simply use it, but sometimes it does not
    properly detect the network and will bring up the dialup connectoid.
    Quite bothersome so that's why I recommend tic'ing "Never dial a
    connection"

    > do we need to add a new connection before it will work?


    *NO*, if the router/modem you buy has its firmware properly setup to
    talk with your ISP, no new connection needs to be setup.

    > Do I need to update his NIC software? I think the driver for his NIC
    > has a date from 1999.


    NIC software, not sure. I GENERALLY follow the advice to update to
    latest drivers for 98. Other software which you ought to look into is
    the Microsoft Dialup Networking version. If it's 1.3 or later you're OK.
    Their last update was version 1.4
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/285189

    > This is so frustrating!


    Chill out! Life's not worth getting upset over some like this. Once you
    do get the setup going it can have many rewards!

    Let us know how you make out.

    ___
    "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:%23puCdBz0JHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > So, my brothers ISP is telling him that he can do it if he buys a
    > router. I don't think this is right. I did it without one. We
    > removed his dialup connection, do we need to add a new connection
    > before it will work? This is so frustrating! Do I need to update his
    > NIC software? I think the driver for his NIC has a date from 1999.
    >
    > Bill
    >
    > "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23yAa2rq0JHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Bill, I still use 98SE as my primary OS and have DSL!
    >>
    >> Here's my setup, perhaps providing it can help your brother.
    >>
    >> DSL line is plugged into a NAT router made by Speedstream, model #
    >> 6520.
    >> I think the router must be configured somehow so it talks to the ISP
    >> (maybe needs some specific address information programmed in?)
    >>
    >> This router has ethernet ports and a wireless antenna, therefore he
    >> can
    >> either take a network cable and plug it into his computer and router
    >> OR
    >> he can buy a wireless modem and plug his PC into the modem. The
    >> wireless
    >> modem (I use a Buffalo Air Station Ethernet Converter model
    >> WLI-TX4-G54HP) will talk with the router to made internet
    >> connections.
    >>
    >> You do NOT need special software for this configuration to work
    >> therefore it doesn't matter if you have Win98, Win95, Linux, Win7,
    >> WinXP, W2K (I have ALL of them and they ALL work with my DSL
    >> setups --
    >> NO special software required from the ISP)!
    >>
    >> You said the computer has a NIC. Does it work properly? If so, as I
    >> recall (it's been a while since setting one of these up), all he'll
    >> likely need to do is configure IE so your dialup connectoid doesn't
    >> try
    >> to connect.
    >>
    >> ___
    >> "Urge" <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
    >> news:#Z2W9Cp0JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>> My brother lives up in Alaska and has an old computer I sent him

    >> several
    >>> years ago. He wants to hook it up to a DSL modem that he has at
    >>> home

    >> for
    >>> another computer. His ISP says he can't do it with Win98se (they
    >>> say

    >> he
    >>> needs WinXP). I ran a computer at my house up til the beginning of

    >> this
    >>> year that was Win98se and it went online thru a DSL modem so I know
    >>> it

    >> can
    >>> be done(unfortunately, I don't remember how). What am I missing?

    >> Shouldn't
    >>> I be able to just configure his NIC and plug in the DSL line and it

    >> will
    >>> work? Any advice, links etc. appreciated.
    >>>
    >>> Bill
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
  13. MEB

    MEB Guest

    Franc Zabkar wrote:
    > On Tue, 12 May 2009 18:03:44 -0400, "Urge"
    > <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
    >
    >> My brother has another machine running Vista.
    >> What if he changed the connection from the DSL modem to the Vista machine to
    >> a USB conn. and then plugged in the ethernet connector(from the Vista
    >> machine) to the Win98 machine? He could then maybe get online thru the
    >> vistas connection. Would he have to setup a LAN or do internet connection
    >> sharing(does Vista even do ICS?).
    >>
    >> Bill

    >
    > My old ADSL modem has a USB port and an Ethernet port. If I configure
    > the modem as a NAT router, then both ports can be used simultaneously
    > by two different machines. You don't need ICS -- both machines will be
    > on the same LAN.
    >
    > Assuming your brother's modem is similar, get him to set up the Vista
    > machine using your ISP's software. Then record the various settings
    > (DNS servers, etc) and transfer them to the Win98 box.
    >
    > - Franc Zabkar


    Lots of good advise posted, here's a reference link should you still
    have difficulty:

    http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/DSL-cable_modem.htm


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  14. Urge

    Urge Guest

    "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message > Assuming your
    brother's modem is similar, get him to set up the Vista
    > machine using your ISP's software. Then record the various settings
    > (DNS servers, etc) and transfer them to the Win98 box.
    >
    > - Franc Zabkar


    Where do I look on the Vista machine to find the settings?
    We went thru the settings on the Win98 machine and they are...
    IP address 3.0.0.2
    subnet mask 255.255.255.255
    intel 92557/based ethernet pci adapter
    dhcp enabled yes

    IP address 192.168.1.45
    subnet mask 255.255.255.0
    default gateway 192.168.1.1
    dhcp server 192.168.1.1
    lease obtained 05/13/09
    lease expires 05/14/09

    netbios is enabled (but everything is greyed out) on the 98 machine
    netbios is disabled on the Vista machine
    never dial a connection is checked

    He had the install cd for the dsl modem and it had drivers for Win98 but
    windows wouldn't use them??? We pointed it towards the cd but maybe we
    should put the files on the computer? We tried using both the ethernet
    cable and the usb connection on the Win98 machine but no joy. Would it help
    if we setup a network between the Vista machine and the Win98 machine? I
    have a 4 computer LAN at home with two boxes running WinXP and two boxes
    running Win98se. I remember just plugging them in and they worked. He has
    a Westell 6100 modem (which, coincidentally is the same one I am using) but
    he does not have a router. He bought a crossover cable and does anyone have
    any thoughts on how make the two machines talk to each other with just the
    crossover cable? If we can configure the Win98 machine to go online then it
    will have a proper IP address and the Vista machie will see it yes o?
    Lotsa questions, no answers here's hoping...
     
  15. Franc Zabkar

    Franc Zabkar Guest

    On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:38:36 -0400, "Urge"
    <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

    >
    >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message > Assuming your
    >brother's modem is similar, get him to set up the Vista
    >> machine using your ISP's software. Then record the various settings
    >> (DNS servers, etc) and transfer them to the Win98 box.
    >>
    >> - Franc Zabkar

    >
    >Where do I look on the Vista machine to find the settings?


    Sorry, I have no idea.

    >We went thru the settings on the Win98 machine and they are...
    >IP address 3.0.0.2


    I don't know what this is. Someone else may be able to tell you.

    >subnet mask 255.255.255.255
    >intel 92557/based ethernet pci adapter
    >dhcp enabled yes
    >
    >IP address 192.168.1.45
    >subnet mask 255.255.255.0
    >default gateway 192.168.1.1
    >dhcp server 192.168.1.1
    >lease obtained 05/13/09
    >lease expires 05/14/09


    Your Win98 box appears to be getting a LAN IP address from your modem,
    so communications appear to be OK. I wonder if your Internet
    connection problems are due to you not having specified the primary
    and secondary DNS server addresses.

    What do you see when you type "winipcfg" in the Start -> Run box?

    >netbios is enabled (but everything is greyed out) on the 98 machine
    >netbios is disabled on the Vista machine
    >never dial a connection is checked
    >
    >He had the install cd for the dsl modem and it had drivers for Win98 but
    >windows wouldn't use them??? We pointed it towards the cd but maybe we
    >should put the files on the computer?


    You only need drivers if you are connecting via USB.

    >We tried using both the ethernet
    >cable and the usb connection on the Win98 machine but no joy. Would it help
    >if we setup a network between the Vista machine and the Win98 machine? I
    >have a 4 computer LAN at home with two boxes running WinXP and two boxes
    >running Win98se. I remember just plugging them in and they worked. He has
    >a Westell 6100 modem (which, coincidentally is the same one I am using) but
    >he does not have a router.


    Can you access your modem's menu by typing its IP address
    (192.168.1.254) into IE's address bar?

    If so, what do you see in this window?
    http://i.dslr.net/pics/faqs/image11612.gif

    >He bought a crossover cable and does anyone have
    >any thoughts on how make the two machines talk to each other with just the
    >crossover cable? If we can configure the Win98 machine to go online then it
    >will have a proper IP address and the Vista machie will see it yes o?
    >Lotsa questions, no answers here's hoping...


    Here are some potentially useful URLs:

    http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6096
    http://www.dslreports.com/faq/11010
    http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7342

    - Franc Zabkar
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    Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
     
  16. MEB

    MEB Guest

    Franc Zabkar wrote:
    > On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:38:36 -0400, "Urge"
    > <thumper_21nospam@verizon.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
    >
    >> "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message > Assuming your
    >> brother's modem is similar, get him to set up the Vista
    >>> machine using your ISP's software. Then record the various settings
    >>> (DNS servers, etc) and transfer them to the Win98 box.
    >>>
    >>> - Franc Zabkar

    >> Where do I look on the Vista machine to find the settings?

    >
    > Sorry, I have no idea.
    >
    >> We went thru the settings on the Win98 machine and they are...
    >> IP address 3.0.0.2

    >
    > I don't know what this is. Someone else may be able to tell you.
    >
    >> subnet mask 255.255.255.255
    >> intel 92557/based ethernet pci adapter
    >> dhcp enabled yes
    >>
    >> IP address 192.168.1.45
    >> subnet mask 255.255.255.0
    >> default gateway 192.168.1.1
    >> dhcp server 192.168.1.1
    >> lease obtained 05/13/09
    >> lease expires 05/14/09

    >
    > Your Win98 box appears to be getting a LAN IP address from your modem,
    > so communications appear to be OK. I wonder if your Internet
    > connection problems are due to you not having specified the primary
    > and secondary DNS server addresses.
    >
    > What do you see when you type "winipcfg" in the Start -> Run box?
    >
    >> netbios is enabled (but everything is greyed out) on the 98 machine
    >> netbios is disabled on the Vista machine
    >> never dial a connection is checked
    >>
    >> He had the install cd for the dsl modem and it had drivers for Win98 but
    >> windows wouldn't use them??? We pointed it towards the cd but maybe we
    >> should put the files on the computer?

    >
    > You only need drivers if you are connecting via USB.
    >
    >> We tried using both the ethernet
    >> cable and the usb connection on the Win98 machine but no joy. Would it help
    >> if we setup a network between the Vista machine and the Win98 machine? I
    >> have a 4 computer LAN at home with two boxes running WinXP and two boxes
    >> running Win98se. I remember just plugging them in and they worked. He has
    >> a Westell 6100 modem (which, coincidentally is the same one I am using) but
    >> he does not have a router.

    >
    > Can you access your modem's menu by typing its IP address
    > (192.168.1.254) into IE's address bar?
    >
    > If so, what do you see in this window?
    > http://i.dslr.net/pics/faqs/image11612.gif
    >
    >> He bought a crossover cable and does anyone have
    >> any thoughts on how make the two machines talk to each other with just the
    >> crossover cable? If we can configure the Win98 machine to go online then it
    >> will have a proper IP address and the Vista machie will see it yes o?
    >> Lotsa questions, no answers here's hoping...

    >
    > Here are some potentially useful URLs:
    >
    > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/6096
    > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/11010
    > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/7342
    >
    > - Franc Zabkar


    Uhm, the modem address would likely be something like 192.168.1.1,
    192.168.2.1, 192.168.0.1, using the broadcast address [generally the
    ..254 range or similar] would not access the web interface. Pinging the
    local assigned address also provides no information [.45] if done from
    the same machine.

    Since the apparent assigned IP range is 192.168.1.45, the likely modem
    address would be 192.168.1.1 - within the same range but at the normal
    base address. This is reflected by the dynamically assigned 192.168.1.1
    TCP/IP addressing found [the modem/combo].

    The 3.0.0.2 address may be an issue UNLESS it came from the/an ISP
    [prior dialup???]. It may also be from prior networking connections or
    some prior networking attempts. OR, potentially, from something like a
    Front Page or PWS web server [assigning a local web address to the system].
    The adapter settings necessary are from the NIC ONLY at the moment.
    The duplicate showing posted are apparently from two different adapters
    OR someone has manually attempted multiple addressing on the NIC, OR as
    mentioned above.

    The DNS issue you mentioned should be attended to.. also, if there is
    a HOSTS file on the 98 box, that should be checked. It needs at least
    127.0.0.1 [localhost] allowance and NOT blocking the potential ISP
    addressing. IF the 98 box has a HOSTS file temporarily disable it by
    adding an extension to it [such as HOSTS.org]. Firewall should be checked.

    Attempting to network VISTA and 98 [particularly the 98 to VISTA
    access aspect] would INCREASE the issues beyond the scope of this
    discussion at the moment.

    The previously mentioned link has also been updated [I left a few
    things out, such as making SURE the ISP has *activated* the account ON
    THEIR END {first tier support may not even know they need to, zero
    configuration takes care of that}, and styles of connections.]

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