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Free Anti-Virus & Other Safety Software

Discussion in 'General Malware And Security' started by ~BD~, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. Dan

    Dan Guest

    Re: Safety Software

    Agreed, thanks David.

    "David H. Lipman" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > From: "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Please stop changing the subject of the post within any given thread !
    >
    >
    > --
    > Dave
    >
    > Multi-AV -

    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  2. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    XP Home ed. is REALLY fast if you never install any software into it !
    Having said that, I built up an XP Home ed. machine, a couple of weeks ago,
    that was fantastically swift - after everything that was installed into it -
    until I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 to back up the boot drive onto its' 2nd
    hd and, the performance vanished. Even after uninstalling Norton Ghost 9.0,
    and dropping it back to the restore point I took immediately prior to
    installing Norton Ghost 9.0 - the performance didn't come back. Rather than
    research / dig / and try to find out how Ghost 9.0 had managed to cripple
    the thing with such lasting effects, that also survived it's uninstallation
    and registry entries etc - we wiped the thing and installed XP again from
    scratch !!

    regards, Richard


    "AlmostBob" <anonymous1@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:eR4ayvj$IHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > on a completely unrelated note
    > DOS3.31 is amazingly fast on a p4
    > --
    > Adaware
    > spybot

    > AVG free antivirus

    > Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
    >

    > Panda online AntiVirus scan

    > Catalog of removal tools (1)
    >

    > Catalog of removal tools (2)
    >

    > Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
    >

    > links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
    > use
    >
    > Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
    > _
    >
    > "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:Ob78kGj$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Sorry - KNOW of no-one!
    >>
    >> BD
    >> --
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Well said, and I'm pretty sure in his 2nd paragraph he was talking about AVG
    !!

    regards, Richard


    "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
    news:%23Gc1vW3$IHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:09:29 -0400, Leonard Grey wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Really effective protection requires an enormous investment (in people,
    >> computers and software; maybe a building to house the above.) How does a
    >> free security suite pay for all that?
    >>
    >> Now there are circumstances that might enable free security software to
    >> be as effective as paid security software. For example, if a company
    >> sells high-priced enterprise security software to businesses, they may
    >> earn enough that they can afford to provide free versions of the
    >> software to individuals - in fact, that might be a marketing strategy.
    >>
    >> There are also organizations that sell paid and free versions of
    >> security software - no doubt the paid-for licenses subsidize the free
    >> licenses. But the free licenses lack features that many may not want to
    >> do without. Often, the support is reduced.
    >>
    >> We are all aware of free software that can stay free because there is a
    >> massive number of volunteers who combine their talents to produce a
    >> top-quality product. Think of Linux, or Mozilla. Other free software
    >> earns donations for the developer, although it's tough to get a mortgage
    >> on the basis of donations.
    >>
    >> Absent the above circumstances, I would not personally put my faith in
    >> free security software. At the end of the day (or the month) somebody
    >> needs to get paid for their efforts.
    >>
    >> But that's just my opinion. In any case, security software isn't the
    >> be-all and end-all of security anyway:
    >>
    >> "Ultimately, the only protection against phishing, forged Web pages,
    >> downloading malware, and other threats is the technology located between
    >> the user's ears."
    >>
    >> Mitch Wagner, Information Week
    >> November 21, 2007
    >> Leonard Grey
    >> Errare humanum est<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Well LG, Mitch Wagner either errs or is biased. I suspect the latter!
    > I generally check credentials of authors writing articles/messages in
    > advertisement sponsored publications.
    >
    > Mitch Wagner is an executive editor at InformationWeek.
    > He would be responsible for the editorial aspects of publication and
    > determines the final content of what is written in InformationWeek.
    > I guess that like most magazines they rely on the advertisement dollar
    > almighty!
    >
    > I take these messages with a ton of salt; And would advise anybody else to
    > be extremely cautious of scaremongering tactics.
    >
    > BTW, what would happen if there was no free AV ware available? Do you
    > realistically think that every user on this planet would go out and
    > purchase one?
    > Me thinks that sooner or later the net would come to a grinding halt; A
    > great motivation (foresight?) for the makers of AV applications to offer
    > workable free versions (albeit with limited features) of their products.
    > Nuff' said :) <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. RJK

    RJK Guest

    AVG hasn't lost its' lustre ! In fact AVG 8.0 has so much lustre that I
    often sit working through all that new "lustre" - wondering how to congure
    it all ! ...the link scanner is pretty impressive, though I've only ever
    seen one or two red X's on a Google search results list.

    regards, Richard


    "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
    news:OM4Fnsm$IHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:06:02 -0700, Dan wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> True, I hate the craplets and would also go with a clean install of my
    >> own
    >> and a customized machine if and when realistic but I know that cannot be
    >> realistic for big businesses. I like SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search
    >> and
    >> Destroy for anti-spyware.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You could add SAS to your arsenal of A-S apps.:
    > SuperAntispyware - Free
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I like AVG 7.5 for anti-virus.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > AVG lost its lustre. Good alternatives are:
    > Avira AntiVirĀ® Personal - FREE Antivirus
    >

    > (The free version won't scan your emails.)
    > You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
    >

    > or
    > Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
    > It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
    > Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
    > GMER technology.
    >

    > (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
    > Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
    >
    > Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
    >

    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I am still undecided about Windows Live One Care but I am using
    >> it on a trial basis for now.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > IMO, WLOC is not worth having; Good quality AV apps. are freely available
    > including the additions it (WLOC) incorporates.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> What about everyone else and what are your security and safety measures
    >> that you use to protect your computers. Thanks in advance for the
    >> replies.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > If you are *really* concerned about security measures you may (as an
    > average homeuser) wish to consider this:
    >
    > For WinXP the most dependable defenses are:
    > 1. Do not work as Administrator; For day-to-day work routinely use a
    > Limited User Account (LUA).
    > 2. Secure (Harden) your operating system.
    > 3. Don't expose services to public networks.
    > 4. Keep your operating system (and all software on it) updated/patched.
    > (Got SP3 yet?).
    > 5. Reconsider the usage of IE and OE.
    > 5a.Secure (Harden) Internet Explorer.
    > 6. Review your installed 3rd party software applications/utilities; Remove
    > clutter, *including* 3rd party software personal (so-called) firewall
    > application (PFW) - the one which claims:
    > "It can stop/control malicious outbound traffic".
    > 7. If on dial-up Internet connection, activate the build-in firewall and
    > configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport protocol for NetBIOS,
    > SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135,137-139 and 445 (the most
    > exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.
    > 7a.If on high-speed Internet connection use a router.
    > For the average homeuser it is suggested blocking both TCP and UDP ports
    > 135 ~ 139 and 445 on the router and implement countermeasures against
    > DNSChanger. (Is the Firmware of your router up-to-date?).
    > And (just in case) Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) has been superseded by
    > Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA).
    > 8. Routinely practice Safe-Hex.
    >
    > Also, ensure you do:
    > a. Regularly back-up data/files.
    > b. Familiarize yourself with crash recovery tools and re-installing your
    > operating system (OS).
    > c. Utilize a good-quality real-time anti-virus application and some vital
    > system monitoring utilities/applications.
    > d. Keep abreast of the latest developments.
    >
    > And finally:
    > Most computer magazines and/or (computer) specialized websites are biased
    > i.e. heavily weighted towards the (advertisement) dollar almighty!
    > Therefore:
    > a. Be cautious selecting software applications touted in publications
    > relying on advertisement revenue.
    > b. Do take their test-results of various software with a considerable
    > amount of salt!
    > c. Which also applies to their 'investigative' in-depth test reports
    > related to any software applications.
    > d. Investigate claims made by software manufacturer *prior* downloading
    > their software; Subscribing to noncommercial-type publications,
    > specialized newsgroups and/or fora (to some extend) are a great way to
    > find out the 'nitty-gritties' and to consider various options available.
    >
    > The least preferred defenses are:
    > Myriads of popular anti-whatever applications and staying ignorant. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Leonard Grey

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    Baloney.

    My copy of XP Home SP 3 runs on a 6-year old Pentium 4 2.26 GHz.
    Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 runs in the background. I've got plenty
    of big software installed, like Office 2007. XP Home boots up quickly
    and runs quickly.
    ---
    Leonard Grey
    Errare humanum est

    RJK wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > XP Home ed. is REALLY fast if you never install any software into it !
    > Having said that, I built up an XP Home ed. machine, a couple of weeks ago,
    > that was fantastically swift - after everything that was installed into it -
    > until I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 to back up the boot drive onto its' 2nd
    > hd and, the performance vanished. Even after uninstalling Norton Ghost 9.0,
    > and dropping it back to the restore point I took immediately prior to
    > installing Norton Ghost 9.0 - the performance didn't come back. Rather than
    > research / dig / and try to find out how Ghost 9.0 had managed to cripple
    > the thing with such lasting effects, that also survived it's uninstallation
    > and registry entries etc - we wiped the thing and installed XP again from
    > scratch !!
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >
    > "AlmostBob" <anonymous1@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:eR4ayvj$IHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> on a completely unrelated note
    >> DOS3.31 is amazingly fast on a p4
    >> --
    >> Adaware
    >> spybot

    >> AVG free antivirus

    >> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
    >>

    >> Panda online AntiVirus scan

    >> Catalog of removal tools (1)
    >>

    >> Catalog of removal tools (2)
    >>

    >> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
    >>

    >> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
    >> use
    >>
    >> Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
    >> _
    >>
    >> "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:Ob78kGj$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Sorry - KNOW of no-one!
    >>>
    >>> BD
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. RJK

    RJK Guest

    ....congure = configure !

    regards, Richard
     
  7. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    ....of course it's "baloney," that was my attempt at being witty ! :)
    However, if a largish range of application software is installed without
    closely controlling what gets installed e.g. lots of XP services that are
    not really required, performance can take a hit.

    regards, Richard


    "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@not.valid.net> wrote in message
    news:OS$wScfFJHA.5572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Baloney.
    >
    > My copy of XP Home SP 3 runs on a 6-year old Pentium 4 2.26 GHz. Kaspersky
    > Internet Security 2009 runs in the background. I've got plenty of big
    > software installed, like Office 2007. XP Home boots up quickly and runs
    > quickly.
    > ---
    > Leonard Grey
    > Errare humanum est
    >
    > RJK wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> XP Home ed. is REALLY fast if you never install any software into it !
    >> Having said that, I built up an XP Home ed. machine, a couple of weeks
    >> ago, that was fantastically swift - after everything that was installed
    >> into it - until I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 to back up the boot drive
    >> onto its' 2nd hd and, the performance vanished. Even after uninstalling
    >> Norton Ghost 9.0, and dropping it back to the restore point I took
    >> immediately prior to installing Norton Ghost 9.0 - the performance didn't
    >> come back. Rather than research / dig / and try to find out how Ghost
    >> 9.0 had managed to cripple the thing with such lasting effects, that also
    >> survived it's uninstallation and registry entries etc - we wiped the
    >> thing and installed XP again from scratch !!
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>
    >>
    >> "AlmostBob" <anonymous1@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eR4ayvj$IHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> on a completely unrelated note
    >>> DOS3.31 is amazingly fast on a p4
    >>> --
    >>> Adaware
    >>> spybot

    >>> AVG free antivirus

    >>> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
    >>>

    >>> Panda online AntiVirus scan

    >>> Catalog of removal tools (1)
    >>>

    >>> Catalog of removal tools (2)
    >>>

    >>> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
    >>>

    >>> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
    >>> use
    >>>
    >>> Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
    >>> _
    >>>
    >>> "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:Ob78kGj$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Sorry - KNOW of no-one!
    >>>>
    >>>> BD
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  8. Leonard Grey

    Leonard Grey Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    Baloney.

    I have all of XP Home's default services running, plus whatever services
    have been added by my application software. Still runs quick.
    ---
    Leonard Grey
    Errare humanum est

    RJK wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ...of course it's "baloney," that was my attempt at being witty ! :)
    > However, if a largish range of application software is installed without
    > closely controlling what gets installed e.g. lots of XP services that are
    > not really required, performance can take a hit.
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >
    > "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@not.valid.net> wrote in message
    > news:OS$wScfFJHA.5572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Baloney.
    >>
    >> My copy of XP Home SP 3 runs on a 6-year old Pentium 4 2.26 GHz. Kaspersky
    >> Internet Security 2009 runs in the background. I've got plenty of big
    >> software installed, like Office 2007. XP Home boots up quickly and runs
    >> quickly.
    >> ---
    >> Leonard Grey
    >> Errare humanum est
    >>
    >> RJK wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> XP Home ed. is REALLY fast if you never install any software into it !
    >>> Having said that, I built up an XP Home ed. machine, a couple of weeks
    >>> ago, that was fantastically swift - after everything that was installed
    >>> into it - until I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 to back up the boot drive
    >>> onto its' 2nd hd and, the performance vanished. Even after uninstalling
    >>> Norton Ghost 9.0, and dropping it back to the restore point I took
    >>> immediately prior to installing Norton Ghost 9.0 - the performance didn't
    >>> come back. Rather than research / dig / and try to find out how Ghost
    >>> 9.0 had managed to cripple the thing with such lasting effects, that also
    >>> survived it's uninstallation and registry entries etc - we wiped the
    >>> thing and installed XP again from scratch !!
    >>>
    >>> regards, Richard
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "AlmostBob" <anonymous1@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:eR4ayvj$IHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>> on a completely unrelated note
    >>>> DOS3.31 is amazingly fast on a p4
    >>>> --
    >>>> Adaware
    >>>> spybot

    >>>> AVG free antivirus

    >>>> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
    >>>>

    >>>> Panda online AntiVirus scan

    >>>> Catalog of removal tools (1)
    >>>>

    >>>> Catalog of removal tools (2)
    >>>>

    >>>> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
    >>>>

    >>>> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
    >>>> use
    >>>>
    >>>> Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
    >>>> _
    >>>>
    >>>> "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:Ob78kGj$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Sorry - KNOW of no-one!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> BD
    >>>>> --
    >>>>>
    >>>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    You need to read a little more carefully !
    I didn't say XP services, as you apprantly chose to misinterpret - I
    referred to services installed by application software installations.
    ....and I hope the lid detector service for YOUR flatbed scanner that's
    polling your cpu several times a second, and other crap that you allowed to
    be installed by lazily choosing they "Typical install" every time you
    installed a porgram, isn't slowing YOUR system down too much !

    kindest regards,

    Richard


    "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@not.valid.net> wrote in message
    news:O2w5nxfFJHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Baloney.
    >
    > I have all of XP Home's default services running, plus whatever services
    > have been added by my application software. Still runs quick.
    > ---
    > Leonard Grey
    > Errare humanum est
    >
    > RJK wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> ...of course it's "baloney," that was my attempt at being witty ! :)
    >> However, if a largish range of application software is installed without
    >> closely controlling what gets installed e.g. lots of XP services that are
    >> not really required, performance can take a hit.
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>
    >>
    >> "Leonard Grey" <l.grey@not.valid.net> wrote in message
    >> news:OS$wScfFJHA.5572@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Baloney.
    >>>
    >>> My copy of XP Home SP 3 runs on a 6-year old Pentium 4 2.26 GHz.
    >>> Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 runs in the background. I've got plenty
    >>> of big software installed, like Office 2007. XP Home boots up quickly
    >>> and runs quickly.
    >>> ---
    >>> Leonard Grey
    >>> Errare humanum est
    >>>
    >>> RJK wrote:
    >>>> XP Home ed. is REALLY fast if you never install any software into it !
    >>>> Having said that, I built up an XP Home ed. machine, a couple of weeks
    >>>> ago, that was fantastically swift - after everything that was installed
    >>>> into it - until I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 to back up the boot drive
    >>>> onto its' 2nd hd and, the performance vanished. Even after
    >>>> uninstalling Norton Ghost 9.0, and dropping it back to the restore
    >>>> point I took immediately prior to installing Norton Ghost 9.0 - the
    >>>> performance didn't come back. Rather than research / dig / and try to
    >>>> find out how Ghost 9.0 had managed to cripple the thing with such
    >>>> lasting effects, that also survived it's uninstallation and registry
    >>>> entries etc - we wiped the thing and installed XP again from scratch !!
    >>>>
    >>>> regards, Richard
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "AlmostBob" <anonymous1@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eR4ayvj$IHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> on a completely unrelated note
    >>>>> DOS3.31 is amazingly fast on a p4
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Adaware
    >>>>> spybot

    >>>>> AVG free antivirus

    >>>>> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
    >>>>>

    >>>>> Panda online AntiVirus scan

    >>>>> Catalog of removal tools (1)
    >>>>>

    >>>>> Catalog of removal tools (2)
    >>>>>

    >>>>> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
    >>>>>

    >>>>> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages
    >>>>> before use
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Grateful thanks to the authors and webmasters
    >>>>> _
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:Ob78kGj$IHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>> Sorry - KNOW of no-one!
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> BD
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  10. Galen

    Galen Guest

    My reply is at the bottom of your sent message.

    In news:uHEVubfFJHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    RJK <notatospam@hotmail.com> typed:

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > AVG hasn't lost its' lustre ! In fact AVG 8.0 has so much lustre that I
    > often sit working through all that new "lustre" - wondering how to congure
    > it all ! ...the link scanner is pretty impressive, though I've only ever
    > seen one or two red X's on a Google search results list.
    >
    > regards, Richard<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    These results may interest you:


    --
    Galen (Not Current MS-MVP)

    My Geek Site:

    Web Hosting:


    "In solving a problem of this sort, the grand thing is to be able to reason
    backwards. That is a very useful accomplishment, and a
    very easy one, but people do not practise it much. In the every-day affairs
    of life it is more useful to reason forwards, and so
    the other comes to be neglected. There are fifty who can reason
    synthetically for one who can reason analytically." - Sherlock
    Holmes
     
  11. Re: Ooops!

    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eu1a27fFJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You need to read a little more carefully !
    > I didn't say XP services, as you apprantly chose to misinterpret - I
    > referred to services installed by application software installations.
    > ...and I hope the lid detector service for YOUR flatbed scanner that's
    > polling your cpu several times a second, and other crap that you allowed
    > to be installed by lazily choosing they "Typical install" every time you
    > installed a porgram, isn't slowing YOUR system down too much !<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for sufficient.
    One must run

    However, this will probably mess up any Norton program that is still
    installed.

    --
    Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
    Do not reply with email
     
  12. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    Ahah ! ...thank you Frank, for very pertinent advice.

    I have quite a collection of Norton cleanup utilities. Though I don't know
    why I keep them - the last time I ran one of them, ages ago, it complained
    that it was out of date, and I had to trundle along to Symantec to get one
    that had some life left in it. Worst of all - I'd forgotten about them !
    (Age doesn't come on its' own).

    ....and Norton cleanup utilities didn't once spring to mind during the
    aforementioned XP Home ed. build that got knocked about by a Norton Ghost
    9.0 install and uninstall.

    I shall be moving my Norton cleanup utility directory into my Ghost 9.0
    directory, as a memory jogger, and storing the Symantec link you supplied in
    there as well, and several other places !

    Many thanks,

    regards, Richard


    "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:%23n%231A6mFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:eu1a27fFJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> You need to read a little more carefully !
    >> I didn't say XP services, as you apprantly chose to misinterpret - I
    >> referred to services installed by application software installations.
    >> ...and I hope the lid detector service for YOUR flatbed scanner that's
    >> polling your cpu several times a second, and other crap that you allowed
    >> to be installed by lazily choosing they "Typical install" every time you
    >> installed a porgram, isn't slowing YOUR system down too much !<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for sufficient.
    > One must run
    >
    > However, this will probably mess up any Norton program that is still
    > installed.
    >
    > --
    > Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
    > Do not reply with email <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  13. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ooops!


    "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:%23n%231A6mFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    <snip><!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for sufficient.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Had you been drinking when you wrote that, Frank? <big grin!>

    In jest!

    Dave
     
  14. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    I knew what he meant ....<HICcup#!#!>

    regards, Richard


    "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:u$AHz9zFJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
    > news:%23n%231A6mFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > <snip><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for sufficient.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Had you been drinking when you wrote that, Frank? <big grin!>
    >
    > In jest!
    >
    > Dave
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  15. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    So did I! [​IMG]

    What didn't you like about Mr Bill Castner, Richard?

    Dave

    --
    "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OtrLsp1FJHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I knew what he meant ....<HICcup#!#!>
    >
    > regards, Richard
    >
    >
    > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:u$AHz9zFJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
    >> news:%23n%231A6mFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> <snip><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for sufficient.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Had you been drinking when you wrote that, Frank? <big grin!>
    >>
    >> In jest!
    >>
    >> Dave
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  16. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Re: Ooops!

    ....not being drawn into that one - other than the following observation :-
    I vaguely recall that an irrashional torrent of abuse came from there,
    ....whoever, at that time, was purporting to be that identity, was unable to
    read a post in a literal fashion, ...seemed mentally unstable I recall :)
    ....let's hope you're not him, under another name !

    regards, Richard


    "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:OVkH9a3FJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > So did I! [​IMG]
    >
    > What didn't you like about Mr Bill Castner, Richard?
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > --
    > "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:OtrLsp1FJHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I knew what he meant ....<HICcup#!#!>
    >>
    >> regards, Richard
    >>
    >>
    >> "~BD~" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:u$AHz9zFJHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> "Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in
    >>> message news:%23n%231A6mFJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>> <snip>
    >>>>
    >>>> Once any Norton program has been installed uninstalled is for
    >>>> sufficient.
    >>>
    >>> Had you been drinking when you wrote that, Frank? <big grin!>
    >>>
    >>> In jest!
    >>>
    >>> Dave
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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