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DRP and server options

Discussion in 'Windows Home Server' started by David Olsen, May 19, 2009.

  1. David Olsen

    David Olsen Guest

    I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for a good analysis of
    the benefits of competing DRP options. I am currently finalising a plan for
    a medium sized enterprise, and was wondering if there are any sites or
    papers that cover this topic.

    For example when is it better to:
    - make an image or VM of Server A and have it ready for commissioning at the
    DRP site (bare metal to VM); or
    - install Server A as a VM and have a copy of the VHD at the DRP site (VHD
    to VHD); or
    - have Server A running with a twin, Server B at the remote site ready to
    commission after data backups have been applied (Server A plus backups to
    Server B plus restore)

    In the third case, are there any particular issues that need to be noted for
    SQL or IIS replication?

    Thanks,
    David
     
  2. Hello David,

    To give you helpful suggestions we need more info about the different server
    roles/applications installed on the servers. For example using VM copies
    from a DC is not supported backup solution and will result in USN rollbacks.
    So please describe more detailed inlcuding the OS version you have.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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    > I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for a good
    > analysis of the benefits of competing DRP options. I am currently
    > finalising a plan for a medium sized enterprise, and was wondering if
    > there are any sites or papers that cover this topic.
    >
    > For example when is it better to:
    > - make an image or VM of Server A and have it ready for commissioning
    > at the
    > DRP site (bare metal to VM); or
    > - install Server A as a VM and have a copy of the VHD at the DRP site
    > (VHD
    > to VHD); or
    > - have Server A running with a twin, Server B at the remote site ready
    > to
    > commission after data backups have been applied (Server A plus backups
    > to
    > Server B plus restore)
    > In the third case, are there any particular issues that need to be
    > noted for SQL or IIS replication?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > David
     
  3. David Olsen

    David Olsen Guest

    Thanks Meinolf,

    All servers are running Windows Server 2003 installed on bare metal.

    Key servers are:
    Server A is a DC with the FSMO roles, DHCP and DNS
    Server B is an IIS server running a third party LOB web app
    Server C is a SQL Server with data for the app interface on Server B
    Server D is at a remote (designated as DRP) site.

    Regards,
    David

    "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
    news:ff16fb66246f38cba6a08ec0e0f0@msnews.microsoft.com...
    > Hello David,
    >
    > To give you helpful suggestions we need more info about the different
    > server roles/applications installed on the servers. For example using VM
    > copies from a DC is not supported backup solution and will result in USN
    > rollbacks. So please describe more detailed inlcuding the OS version you
    > have.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    > confers no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    >> I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for a good
    >> analysis of the benefits of competing DRP options. I am currently
    >> finalising a plan for a medium sized enterprise, and was wondering if
    >> there are any sites or papers that cover this topic.
    >>
    >> For example when is it better to:
    >> - make an image or VM of Server A and have it ready for commissioning
    >> at the
    >> DRP site (bare metal to VM); or
    >> - install Server A as a VM and have a copy of the VHD at the DRP site
    >> (VHD
    >> to VHD); or
    >> - have Server A running with a twin, Server B at the remote site ready
    >> to
    >> commission after data backups have been applied (Server A plus backups
    >> to
    >> Server B plus restore)
    >> In the third case, are there any particular issues that need to be
    >> noted for SQL or IIS replication?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> David

    >
    >
    >
     
  4. Hello David,

    For DC's it is recommended to have at least 2 in a domain. So in case of
    failures you still have the AD database available. Also it should be GC and
    DNS server. For a restore you need at least the system state of a DC, as
    said before images of a DC are not recommended backup solutions for them.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216993

    For IIS and SQL you should at least backup the database's so you can restore
    them also to a new machine.

    IIS:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...6ee-90d4-45e1-9b82-4aaea90eb02e.mspx?mfr=true

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736787(WS.10).aspx

    SQL:
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms191239(SQL.90).aspx

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms187048(SQL.90).aspx

    See here about system state backup in general:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938537.aspx

    A basic server image that is shutdown with sysprep you can prepare, so in
    case of a server failure you can easy install a new machine, this should
    just be the server OS without any role installed, so you can use it for any
    kind of role/application.

    If that options are not enough you have to implement a clustering solution
    for IIS and SQL, DC's on a cluster are not recommended.

    SQL clustering:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc162479.aspx

    http://www.microsoft.com/events/series/detail/webcastdetails.aspx?seriesid=73&webcastid=502

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...dc-a17b-4f09-b282-c6830fead499&displaylang=en

    IIS NLB:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc778748.aspx

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742600.aspx

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc756931(WS.10).aspx

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Thanks Meinolf,
    >
    > All servers are running Windows Server 2003 installed on bare metal.
    >
    > Key servers are:
    > Server A is a DC with the FSMO roles, DHCP and DNS
    > Server B is an IIS server running a third party LOB web app
    > Server C is a SQL Server with data for the app interface on Server B
    > Server D is at a remote (designated as DRP) site.
    > Regards,
    > David
    > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
    > news:ff16fb66246f38cba6a08ec0e0f0@msnews.microsoft.com...
    >
    >> Hello David,
    >>
    >> To give you helpful suggestions we need more info about the different
    >> server roles/applications installed on the servers. For example using
    >> VM copies from a DC is not supported backup solution and will result
    >> in USN rollbacks. So please describe more detailed inlcuding the OS
    >> version you have.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>> I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for a good
    >>> analysis of the benefits of competing DRP options. I am currently
    >>> finalising a plan for a medium sized enterprise, and was wondering
    >>> if there are any sites or papers that cover this topic.
    >>>
    >>> For example when is it better to:
    >>> - make an image or VM of Server A and have it ready for
    >>> commissioning
    >>> at the
    >>> DRP site (bare metal to VM); or
    >>> - install Server A as a VM and have a copy of the VHD at the DRP
    >>> site
    >>> (VHD
    >>> to VHD); or
    >>> - have Server A running with a twin, Server B at the remote site
    >>> ready
    >>> to
    >>> commission after data backups have been applied (Server A plus
    >>> backups
    >>> to
    >>> Server B plus restore)
    >>> In the third case, are there any particular issues that need to be
    >>> noted for SQL or IIS replication?
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> David
     
  5. David Olsen

    David Olsen Guest

    Thanks for that, much appreciated.

    David.
     

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