Change from Fedora

Hi,

I have been commisioned to replace a linux system with a Windows
Server 2008 replacement.

They have two Fedora servers. One is the main domain controller for
the internal network and the other has MySQL (primary function for
internal use)

The current duties of the current main domain controller server are
several fold:

It is the main connection computer, is behind a firewalled router and
has a firewall of its own to maintain the internal network.
It is the main domain controller and server for a total of up to 25
desktop PC's each running a mixture of Vista and XP.
It has a apache webserver on it and also acts as its own DNS machine.
It it the current mail server for all machines using (IMAP, POP3) and
outlook on the desktops.
It provides file mapping services (using samba).

So basically I need to replace both machines Windows Server Operating
Systems. What exactly am I going to need? Given the PC's have a site
licence I am really interested in what it would cost to bring up two
(or more if another PC is needed) to replace the current functionality
providided by both current server computers.

Going to need a server to run and also to provide (and more) replace
the jobs the other main domain controller is doing.

It's the licensing issues proving difficult to decipher to replicate
this system as its obviously going to need IIS, Outlook capabilities,
SQL Server as well as the current mapping abilities (plus whaterver is
going on at the Fedora level and being done (authentication for
example).

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Regards

Tam

 

"taminglis08@googlemail.com" <taminglis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> They have two Fedora servers. One is the main domain controller for
> the internal network and the other has MySQL (primary function for
> internal use)

How do you have a Linux box as a "Domain Controller"??/

> The current duties of the current main domain controller server are
> several fold:
>
> It is the main connection computer, is behind a firewalled router and
> has a firewall of its own to maintain the internal network.

Firewall block things,...they don't "maintain" things. The vast variety of
traffic required by a Domain controller pretty much nullifies the use of any
Firewall between the DC and the rest of the LAN.

> It is the main domain controller and server for a total of up to 25
> desktop PC's each running a mixture of Vista and XP.
> It has a apache webserver on it and also acts as its own DNS machine.
> It it the current mail server for all machines using (IMAP, POP3) and
> outlook on the desktops.
> It provides file mapping services (using samba).

There is no way you are going to want to run all that on a DC.

You need 4 machines.
1. DC running DNS, DHCP, WINS
2. Mail server running whatever you use for a mail server
3. a Web Server for whatever you are running as a Web Server
4. Mapping Services? What is that? Mapping what? If you mean a file
server then you need another box for that.

> So basically I need to replace both machines Windows Server Operating
> Systems. What exactly am I going to need? Given the PC's have a site
> licence I am really interested in what it would cost to bring up two
> (or more if another PC is needed) to replace the current functionality
> providided by both current server computers.
>
> Going to need a server to run and also to provide (and more) replace
> the jobs the other main domain controller is doing.
>
> It's the licensing issues proving difficult to decipher to replicate
> this system as its obviously going to need IIS, Outlook capabilities,
> SQL Server as well as the current mapping abilities (plus whaterver is
> going on at the Fedora level and being done (authentication for
> example).

Hire a consultant to come in and help.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

 

With respect to the firewall and domain controllers see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555381/en-us. I have the Windows Firewall
enabled on my domain controllers and all clients (Server 2008, Vista, XP)
using the instructions in the above KB article and it is working fine.

--
Bruce Sanderson
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "taminglis08@googlemail.com" <taminglis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a3d49ed2-1f4b-4fcb-98a4-978ac355dea9@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>> They have two Fedora servers. One is the main domain controller for
>> the internal network and the other has MySQL (primary function for
>> internal use)
>
> How do you have a Linux box as a "Domain Controller"??/
>
>> The current duties of the current main domain controller server are
>> several fold:
>>
>> It is the main connection computer, is behind a firewalled router and
>> has a firewall of its own to maintain the internal network.
>
> Firewall block things,...they don't "maintain" things. The vast variety
> of traffic required by a Domain controller pretty much nullifies the use
> of any Firewall between the DC and the rest of the LAN.
>
>> It is the main domain controller and server for a total of up to 25
>> desktop PC's each running a mixture of Vista and XP.
>> It has a apache webserver on it and also acts as its own DNS machine.
>> It it the current mail server for all machines using (IMAP, POP3) and
>> outlook on the desktops.
>> It provides file mapping services (using samba).
>
> There is no way you are going to want to run all that on a DC.
>
> You need 4 machines.
> 1. DC running DNS, DHCP, WINS
> 2. Mail server running whatever you use for a mail server
> 3. a Web Server for whatever you are running as a Web Server
> 4. Mapping Services? What is that? Mapping what? If you mean a file
> server then you need another box for that.
>
>> So basically I need to replace both machines Windows Server Operating
>> Systems. What exactly am I going to need? Given the PC's have a site
>> licence I am really interested in what it would cost to bring up two
>> (or more if another PC is needed) to replace the current functionality
>> providided by both current server computers.
>>
>> Going to need a server to run and also to provide (and more) replace
>> the jobs the other main domain controller is doing.
>>
>> It's the licensing issues proving difficult to decipher to replicate
>> this system as its obviously going to need IIS, Outlook capabilities,
>> SQL Server as well as the current mapping abilities (plus whaterver is
>> going on at the Fedora level and being done (authentication for
>> example).
>
> Hire a consultant to come in and help.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>

 

"Bruce Sanderson" <bsanders@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:eUD0hlGzJHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> With respect to the firewall and domain controllers see
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555381/en-us. I have the Windows Firewall
> enabled on my domain controllers and all clients (Server 2008, Vista, XP)
> using the instructions in the above KB article and it is working fine.

Yea, I know it can be done but I think after you do it there isn't anything
"left" to block. All the things that a "hacker" would want or need to be
avialble has just been made available. On top of that I think host-based
firewalls are a waist of time anyway. It doesn't make any sense to me to
have something running on a machine that you don't want to be accessed just
so you can "cover your mistake" by sticking a host based firewall on it.
Just "stop" or "remove" whatever it is on the machine that you don't want
people connecting to and forget the firewall.


--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------