Cannot write to shared folder on W2K8 server

Been there done that. Would this W2K8 server being a member in a SBS 2003
domain have anything to do with it? Both servers are up to date on updates
as well as SP's.


"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
wrote in message news:OhR8umIvJHA.5708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MEJJhIvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The folder is located on the C drive. More specifically C:\Information
>> Technology. share name is "IT". I shared it by "right-click, selected
>> Properties, then go to the Share Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the
>> preferred method)?"
>>
>> I can connect via \\servername\sharename or even \\servername\folder name
>> or even by \\ip address\sharename.I can view and browse all sub folders
>> within. Just cannot write to any of them. You would think if I can do it
>> from the server itself logged on as the domain admin then I should be
>> able to do it remotely from any other machine in my network.
>>
>
> I would assume as well that if you can connect to the share while locally
> logged on and make changes, but it doesn't make sense not being able to do
> it remotely connecting across the wire.
>
> Do me a favor and add Domain Admins = FC to the NTFS perms and try it
> again.
>
> Ace
>
>

 

"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
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> Been there done that. Would this W2K8 server being a member in a SBS 2003
> domain have anything to do with it? Both servers are up to date on updates
> as well as SP's.
>

I see, I should have asked earlier for the scenario, but I really don't see
SBS being a factor other than possibly the domain and forest functional
levels are not 2003 causing a member server not be able to see a domain
local group (known issue from the past). You can also try it with a local
user account instead of a domain account.

Also, try disabling IPv6 on the NIC and remark out the "::1" out of the
hosts file. I've seen that to cause issues as well with communications,
matter of fact that was recent with an issue that I saw with Exchange
2007/Windows 2008 to a 2008 DC DSAccess NSPI RPC communication was failing.
There was also a reg entry to kill IPv6 too. But I don;t think this is your
case for the reg entry, however do try removing the other items and see what
happens.

Ace

 

Hello AllenM,

I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem. Even with
sharing the folders the different ways as described from Ace, the share exactly
does what i configure based on the share tfs permissions. With share permissions
on read i get the access denied, that's the only access denied i have.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Yes I can. All is accessable. Just can't write to the folder.
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb661fb038cb8aa036e8625e@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello AllenM,
>>
>> Can you access the folder from the run line with
>> \\servername\foldername, \\servername.domain.com\foldername and
>> \\ipaddress\foldername ?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
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>> confers no rights.
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>>> Better yet to help me better understand what you're saying tell me
>>> this.............
>>>
>>> I got a folder on a W2K8 Standard server. I need this folder to be
>>> shared and accessed only by myself or the Domain Admins group for
>>> which I am a member of always. I need to be able to access this
>>> Share from a shortcut on other servers as well as my desktop.
>>>
>>> 1. What are the SHARE security settings?
>>> 2. what should the NTFS permisssions be?
>>> Currently they are...........
>>> 1. SHARE Security / Everyone=FULL
>>> 2. NTFS Permissions / Domain Admins = FULL, SYSTEM=FULL
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:ff16fb661faeb8cb8a99d385efde@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry but since 2003 the share permissions default is read-only. In
>>>> 2008 the account that creates the share has FC and additional added
>>>> accounts/group are read-only by default.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> SHARE security is Everyone=FULL. this has always been the standard
>>>>> for NTFS Folder Sharing Security. NTFS permissions are also valid
>>>>> with only SYSTEM and Administrators = FULL. No users allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>>>>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OYDrVwGvJHA.5672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> In news:e71HvLGvJHA.5244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
>>>>>> AllenM <NoEmail@NoReply.com>, seeking assistance, posted the
>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>> I have a shared folder on a Wondows 2008 Standard server. I've
>>>>>>> checked and doubled checked Share security as well as NTFS
>>>>>>> permissions and all is correct. My problem is even though I can
>>>>>>> access this share I cannot write to it. I keep getting access
>>>>>>> denied errors. I checked file sharing on the W2K8 server and it
>>>>>>> is turned on. Anyone got any ideas as to why even as
>>>>>>> Administrator or Domain Admin I cannot write to this shared
>>>>>>> folder without being logged on locally?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You stated you checked the file sharing and it is turned on. Did
>>>>>> you check the Share Permissions? By default, Everyone = Read Only
>>>>>> through the share. I would suggest to change it to the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remove Everyone
>>>>>> Add:
>>>>>> Domain Admins FC
>>>>>> Authenticated Users Change
>>>>>> -- Ace
>>>>>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
>>>>>> and confers no rights.
>>>>>> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging,
>>>>>> MCT
>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>>>>>> aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org
>>>>>> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS
>>>>>> directly.
>>>>>> Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> numbers.

 

Hello AllenM,

Belonging to another OS domain shouldn't be a problem with sharing folders.

To disable IPv6 complete check this article:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/paulbergson/archive/2009/03/19/disabling-ipv6-on-windows-2008.aspx

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Been there done that. Would this W2K8 server being a member in a SBS
> 2003 domain have anything to do with it? Both servers are up to date
> on updates as well as SP's.
>
> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
> news:OhR8umIvJHA.5708@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23MEJJhIvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> The folder is located on the C drive. More specifically
>>> C:\Information Technology. share name is "IT". I shared it by
>>> "right-click, selected Properties, then go to the Share Tab, and
>>> select Advanced Sharing (the preferred method)?"
>>>
>>> I can connect via \\servername\sharename or even \\servername\folder
>>> name or even by \\ip address\sharename.I can view and browse all sub
>>> folders within. Just cannot write to any of them. You would think if
>>> I can do it from the server itself logged on as the domain admin
>>> then I should be able to do it remotely from any other machine in my
>>> network.
>>>
>> I would assume as well that if you can connect to the share while
>> locally logged on and make changes, but it doesn't make sense not
>> being able to do it remotely connecting across the wire.
>>
>> Do me a favor and add Domain Admins = FC to the NTFS perms and try it
>> again.
>>
>> Ace
>>

 

When you're logged in locally and can write, are you simply browsing to the
folder using its path, or are you connecting to it using
\\servername\sharename?


"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:%23MEJJhIvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> The folder is located on the C drive. More specifically C:\Information
> Technology. share name is "IT". I shared it by "right-click, selected
> Properties, then go to the Share Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the
> preferred method)?"
>
> I can connect via \\servername\sharename or even \\servername\folder name
> or even by \\ip address\sharename.I can view and browse all sub folders
> within. Just cannot write to any of them. You would think if I can do it
> from the server itself logged on as the domain admin then I should be able
> to do it remotely from any other machine in my network.
>
> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
> wrote in message news:ek0GmbIvJHA.5888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
>> news:uoh5C5HvJHA.5672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> As stated in previous posts if I "log" on locally I have no issues
>>> writing to that folder. I cannot write to it from my workstation or
>>> another server logged on as the domain admin or myself who is a domain
>>> admin.
>>
>> Ok, let's back up a bit.
>>
>> What folder did you share? Is it a folder in your user profile, or a new
>> folder you created on C or some other drive?
>>
>> How exactly did you share it? Did you right-click on it and select Share,
>> or did you right-click, selected Properties, then go to the Share Tab,
>> and select Advanced Sharing (the preferred method)?
>>
>> I've seen minor issues with right-clicking and selecting Share vs
>> Properties, then Share tab, then Advanced.
>>
>> Also, how are you connecting to it?
>> \\server\share
>> \\IpAddress\share
>> \\fqdn\share
>> Or are you browsing for it in the neighborhood and connecting that way?
>>
>> Are the firewalls on the client and server both disabled? I assume there
>> are no third party software, and the network identification was selected
>> to be private and not public.
>>
>> The reason why I am asking these questions, is I have not had any
>> problems yet with 2008 since I first started playing with it from the
>> Longhorn days, and this is the first I've heard of anyone having problems
>> with connecting to a share. However, I think we'll figure it out.
>>
>> Ace
>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

I just simply use "My" Computer and open an Explorer window.

"Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
news:uWUyDOQvJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> When you're logged in locally and can write, are you simply browsing to
> the folder using its path, or are you connecting to it using
> \\servername\sharename?
>
>
> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
> news:%23MEJJhIvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The folder is located on the C drive. More specifically C:\Information
>> Technology. share name is "IT". I shared it by "right-click, selected
>> Properties, then go to the Share Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the
>> preferred method)?"
>>
>> I can connect via \\servername\sharename or even \\servername\folder name
>> or even by \\ip address\sharename.I can view and browse all sub folders
>> within. Just cannot write to any of them. You would think if I can do it
>> from the server itself logged on as the domain admin then I should be
>> able to do it remotely from any other machine in my network.
>>
>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>> news:ek0GmbIvJHA.5888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uoh5C5HvJHA.5672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> As stated in previous posts if I "log" on locally I have no issues
>>>> writing to that folder. I cannot write to it from my workstation or
>>>> another server logged on as the domain admin or myself who is a domain
>>>> admin.
>>>
>>> Ok, let's back up a bit.
>>>
>>> What folder did you share? Is it a folder in your user profile, or a new
>>> folder you created on C or some other drive?
>>>
>>> How exactly did you share it? Did you right-click on it and select
>>> Share, or did you right-click, selected Properties, then go to the Share
>>> Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the preferred method)?
>>>
>>> I've seen minor issues with right-clicking and selecting Share vs
>>> Properties, then Share tab, then Advanced.
>>>
>>> Also, how are you connecting to it?
>>> \\server\share
>>> \\IpAddress\share
>>> \\fqdn\share
>>> Or are you browsing for it in the neighborhood and connecting that way?
>>>
>>> Are the firewalls on the client and server both disabled? I assume there
>>> are no third party software, and the network identification was selected
>>> to be private and not public.
>>>
>>> The reason why I am asking these questions, is I have not had any
>>> problems yet with 2008 since I first started playing with it from the
>>> Longhorn days, and this is the first I've heard of anyone having
>>> problems with connecting to a share. However, I think we'll figure it
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Ace
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

 

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello AllenM,
>
> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem. Even with
> sharing the folders the different ways as described from Ace, the share
> exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs permissions. With
> share permissions on read i get the access denied, that's the only access
> denied i have.


I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same results
you did, Meinolf.

Ace

 

!!!UPDATE!!!!

After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot recreate my
issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I created a
new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop. Only change
I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So why can't I
wrtie to that other share?
This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty much
used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to move
this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which I still
don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied the share
permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.


"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
wrote in message news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> Hello AllenM,
>>
>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem. Even
>> with sharing the folders the different ways as described from Ace, the
>> share exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs permissions.
>> With share permissions on read i get the access denied, that's the only
>> access denied i have.
>
>
> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
> results you did, Meinolf.
>
> Ace
>
>

 

"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:OETX$OTvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>
> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot recreate
> my issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
> created a new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop.
> Only change I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So
> why can't I wrtie to that other share?
> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty much
> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
> move this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which I
> still don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied
> the share permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.

Hmm, interesting. I wasn't aware of a freeware product that will do this.
I've always used xcalcs or robocopy to move stuff like this, and just
recreate the share manually.

And reading back, it appears, if I read it correctly in one of your other
posts, that you disabled sharing completely on the IT folder, then re-shared
it and it still didn't work. Interesting. If that was the case, maybe
removing the share and NTFS permissions, except for administrator, and then
reapply the NTFS permissions, then the Share. Keep in mind when a connection
is made across the wire through a share, the system will evaluate both the
share permissions and applies the lease restrictive value, then the NTFS
perms, and apply the lest restrictive value, then combines them both and
applies the most restrictive value. That is why we normally suggest, and is
best practice, on the share side to remove Everyone, and replace it with
Auth Users, and allow Auth Users FC, and Domain Admins FC, and allow the
NTFS side to control the overall resultant permissions.

Ace

 

OK so I fixed this by creating a new folder and share and moving the
contents and deleting the old folder and share. thanks to all of you who
took the time and proived your valuable input. Such a long thread for such a
minimal task.


"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:OETX$OTvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>
> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot recreate
> my issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
> created a new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop.
> Only change I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So
> why can't I wrtie to that other share?
> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty much
> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
> move this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which I
> still don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied
> the share permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>
>
> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
> wrote in message news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>
>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem. Even
>>> with sharing the folders the different ways as described from Ace, the
>>> share exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs permissions.
>>> With share permissions on read i get the access denied, that's the only
>>> access denied i have.
>>
>>
>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>
>> Ace
>>
>>
>
>

 

Hello AllenM,

We use also software to sync files between folders over WAN connections.
In that software you can only save data on the source location, all other
folders are read-only and that is not visible on the share tfs premissions.
With that information i can understand the problem and the solution.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>
> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot
> recreate my
> issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
> created a
> new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop. Only
> change
> I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So why
> can't I
> wrtie to that other share?
> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty
> much
> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
> move
> this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which I
> still
> don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied the
> share
> permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
> news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>
>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem.
>>> Even with sharing the folders the different ways as described from
>>> Ace, the share exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs
>>> permissions. With share permissions on read i get the access denied,
>>> that's the only access denied i have.
>>>
>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>
>> Ace
>>

 

Hello AllenM,

And we all could learn from it, so it doesn't matter if the post is long,
when at the end everything works.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> OK so I fixed this by creating a new folder and share and moving the
> contents and deleting the old folder and share. thanks to all of you
> who took the time and proived your valuable input. Such a long thread
> for such a minimal task.
>
> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
> news:OETX$OTvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>>
>> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot
>> recreate
>> my issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
>> created a new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my
>> desktop.
>> Only change I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share
>> permissions. So
>> why can't I wrtie to that other share?
>> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty
>> much
>> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program
>> to
>> move this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server.
>> Which I
>> still don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had
>> reapplied
>> the share permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>> news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>>
>>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem.
>>>> Even with sharing the folders the different ways as described from
>>>> Ace, the share exactly does what i configure based on the
>>>> share tfs permissions. With share permissions on read i get the
>>>> access denied, that's the only access denied i have.
>>>>
>>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>>
>>> Ace
>>>

 

I don't think having Everyone=FULL was a cause to this issue. What exactly
it was I still don't have a clue because as tated if I removed the share and
reapplied it should have worked. Obviously it has something to do with not
created the share fisrt and copying over the contents. What I did was copied
over the share and contents to C:\
In any case all is well that ends well. Thanks for your time and input Ace.


"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
wrote in message news:uIZXXmTvJHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
> news:OETX$OTvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>>
>> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot recreate
>> my issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
>> created a new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop.
>> Only change I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So
>> why can't I wrtie to that other share?
>> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty much
>> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
>> move this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which
>> I still don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had
>> reapplied the share permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>
> Hmm, interesting. I wasn't aware of a freeware product that will do this.
> I've always used xcalcs or robocopy to move stuff like this, and just
> recreate the share manually.
>
> And reading back, it appears, if I read it correctly in one of your other
> posts, that you disabled sharing completely on the IT folder, then
> re-shared it and it still didn't work. Interesting. If that was the case,
> maybe removing the share and NTFS permissions, except for administrator,
> and then reapply the NTFS permissions, then the Share. Keep in mind when a
> connection is made across the wire through a share, the system will
> evaluate both the share permissions and applies the lease restrictive
> value, then the NTFS perms, and apply the lest restrictive value, then
> combines them both and applies the most restrictive value. That is why we
> normally suggest, and is best practice, on the share side to remove
> Everyone, and replace it with Auth Users, and allow Auth Users FC, and
> Domain Admins FC, and allow the NTFS side to control the overall resultant
> permissions.
>
> Ace

 

"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:ui3vRqTvJHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I don't think having Everyone=FULL was a cause to this issue. What exactly
>it was I still don't have a clue because as tated if I removed the share
>and reapplied it should have worked. Obviously it has something to do with
>not created the share fisrt and copying over the contents. What I did was
>copied over the share and contents to C:\
> In any case all is well that ends well. Thanks for your time and input
> Ace.


My pleasure, and I'm glad we got to the bottom of it!!

Cheers!

Ace

 

To recap I think the resolution is........... Do not copy over a share and
contents to a W2K8 server. Create the share on the W2K8 server first and
then copy over the contents.


"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb661fceb8cb8b62387e56bf@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello AllenM,
>
> We use also software to sync files between folders over WAN connections.
> In that software you can only save data on the source location, all other
> folders are read-only and that is not visible on the share tfs
> premissions. With that information i can understand the problem and the
> solution.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>>
>> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot
>> recreate my
>> issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
>> created a
>> new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop. Only
>> change
>> I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So why
>> can't I
>> wrtie to that other share?
>> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty
>> much
>> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
>> move
>> this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which I
>> still
>> don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied the
>> share
>> permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>> news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>>
>>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem.
>>>> Even with sharing the folders the different ways as described from
>>>> Ace, the share exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs
>>>> permissions. With share permissions on read i get the access denied,
>>>> that's the only access denied i have.
>>>>
>>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>>
>>> Ace
>>>
>
>

 

Hello AllenM,

It doesn't matter if you create a share first and copy then or the other
way around. If you use a peace of software which copies for you make sure
you have all information how the software works.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> To recap I think the resolution is........... Do not copy over a share
> and contents to a W2K8 server. Create the share on the W2K8 server
> first and then copy over the contents.
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb661fceb8cb8b62387e56bf@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello AllenM,
>>
>> We use also software to sync files between folders over WAN
>> connections. In that software you can only save data on the source
>> location, all other folders are read-only and that is not visible on
>> the share tfs premissions. With that information i can understand
>> the problem and the solution.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>>>
>>> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot
>>> recreate my
>>> issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
>>> created a
>>> new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop. Only
>>> change
>>> I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So why
>>> can't I
>>> wrtie to that other share?
>>> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty
>>> much
>>> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program
>>> to
>>> move
>>> this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which
>>> I
>>> still
>>> don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had reapplied
>>> the
>>> share
>>> permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>>>
>>>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem.
>>>>> Even with sharing the folders the different ways as described from
>>>>> Ace, the share exactly does what i configure based on the
>>>>> share tfs permissions. With share permissions on read i get the
>>>>> access denied, that's the only access denied i have.
>>>>>
>>>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>>>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>>>
>>>> Ace
>>>>

 

If you want to compare apples to apples, then when you're logged into the
server locally you'll want to connect the same way as you're trying to do
remotely. Open Explorer and connect to \\servername\sharename. If your
local (successful) tests on the server involve just browsing to
C:\foldername then you're bypassing the sharing component entirely. If
connecting to \\servername\sharename doesn't give you write access either
locally or remotely then at least you know it's something in the sharing.


"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:%23L4zVARvJHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I just simply use "My" Computer and open an Explorer window.
>
> "Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
> news:uWUyDOQvJHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> When you're logged in locally and can write, are you simply browsing to
>> the folder using its path, or are you connecting to it using
>> \\servername\sharename?
>>
>>
>> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23MEJJhIvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> The folder is located on the C drive. More specifically C:\Information
>>> Technology. share name is "IT". I shared it by "right-click, selected
>>> Properties, then go to the Share Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the
>>> preferred method)?"
>>>
>>> I can connect via \\servername\sharename or even \\servername\folder
>>> name or even by \\ip address\sharename.I can view and browse all sub
>>> folders within. Just cannot write to any of them. You would think if I
>>> can do it from the server itself logged on as the domain admin then I
>>> should be able to do it remotely from any other machine in my network.
>>>
>>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ek0GmbIvJHA.5888@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uoh5C5HvJHA.5672@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> As stated in previous posts if I "log" on locally I have no issues
>>>>> writing to that folder. I cannot write to it from my workstation or
>>>>> another server logged on as the domain admin or myself who is a domain
>>>>> admin.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, let's back up a bit.
>>>>
>>>> What folder did you share? Is it a folder in your user profile, or a
>>>> new folder you created on C or some other drive?
>>>>
>>>> How exactly did you share it? Did you right-click on it and select
>>>> Share, or did you right-click, selected Properties, then go to the
>>>> Share Tab, and select Advanced Sharing (the preferred method)?
>>>>
>>>> I've seen minor issues with right-clicking and selecting Share vs
>>>> Properties, then Share tab, then Advanced.
>>>>
>>>> Also, how are you connecting to it?
>>>> \\server\share
>>>> \\IpAddress\share
>>>> \\fqdn\share
>>>> Or are you browsing for it in the neighborhood and connecting that way?
>>>>
>>>> Are the firewalls on the client and server both disabled? I assume
>>>> there are no third party software, and the network identification was
>>>> selected to be private and not public.
>>>>
>>>> The reason why I am asking these questions, is I have not had any
>>>> problems yet with 2008 since I first started playing with it from the
>>>> Longhorn days, and this is the first I've heard of anyone having
>>>> problems with connecting to a share. However, I think we'll figure it
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> Ace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

Glad to see you tracked down the issue!


"AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
news:%236$jIoTvJHA.5708@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> OK so I fixed this by creating a new folder and share and moving the
> contents and deleting the old folder and share. thanks to all of you who
> took the time and proived your valuable input. Such a long thread for such
> a minimal task.
>
>
> "AllenM" <NoEmail@NoReply.com> wrote in message
> news:OETX$OTvJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> !!!UPDATE!!!!
>>
>> After reading your latest post and Meinolf about how you cannot recreate
>> my issues led me to try to recreate it myself. Guess what? I can't. I
>> created a new folder and share on C: and can write to it from my desktop.
>> Only change I made was to grant Eveyone=FULL on the Share permissions. So
>> why can't I wrtie to that other share?
>> This folder was not originally created on the W2K8 server. I pretty much
>> used a freeware (GoodSynch) file and folder synchronization program to
>> move this folder and share from a W2K3 server to this W2K8 server. Which
>> I still don't understand why it doesn't work especially if I had
>> reapplied the share permissions and NTFS security. Go figure.
>>
>>
>> "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
>> <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
>> news:uAtGa8SvJHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:ff16fb661fba78cb8af0ac6c2149@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello AllenM,
>>>>
>>>> I did some further testing and i can not reproduce your problem. Even
>>>> with sharing the folders the different ways as described from Ace, the
>>>> share exactly does what i configure based on the share tfs
>>>> permissions. With share permissions on read i get the access denied,
>>>> that's the only access denied i have.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tried to reproduce it as well, however I came up wtih the same
>>> results you did, Meinolf.
>>>
>>> Ace
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

"Joe Grover" <grover.joe@acd.net> wrote in message
news:%23QdE%237evJHA.1304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you want to compare apples to apples, then when you're logged into the
> server locally you'll want to connect the same way as you're trying to do
> remotely. Open Explorer and connect to \\servername\sharename. If your
> local (successful) tests on the server involve just browsing to
> C:\foldername then you're bypassing the sharing component entirely. If
> connecting to \\servername\sharename doesn't give you write access either
> locally or remotely then at least you know it's something in the sharing.
>
>

Hello Joe,

That was one of the steps we suggested he try earlier on in an attempt to
diagnose the problem.

Cheers!
Ace