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Cannot debug with running VS2005 as administrator

Discussion in 'General Malware And Security' started by bharath_r, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. bharath_r

    bharath_r Guest

    Hi all,

    I am new to windows vista. I shifted from xp to vista only a few days
    back. One strange thing i have noticed is every time i try to run a
    program i am asked whether i want to continue. The other thing is that
    if i do not start VS2005 by saying 'run as administrator' i am not
    able to debug my programs. I cannot debug ISAPI dlls, i cannot attach
    to processes, although i am logged into my machine as administrator. I
    there a way around this?

    Thanks
    Bharath
     
  2. Jesper

    Jesper Guest

    The second part of this is UAC related. Under UAC, even though you are a
    member of the Administrators group, the SID for that group and the related
    privileges are not in your token unless you elevate (Run as administrator...).

    There only way to get around that for debugging applications running as
    other users is the obvious: elevate the debugger. The old trick of granting a
    non-privileged account SeDebugPrivilege no longer works because UAC will
    strip that privilege from your token, regardless of how you received it.

    As for your first question, I am not sure exactly what you mean by "every
    time I run a program I am asked whether I want to continue." Are these UAC
    prompts? If so, the "every time I run a program part" can't possibly be true.
    The only reason those prompts would occur is if (a) the program is an
    installer, ([​IMG] the program is designed to ask for elevation, or © you have
    configured the program to run as an administrator. That should only be true
    for a very small fraction of the programs you run. Could you please give more
    details on what you mean by that claim, and which programs this happens with?

    ---
    Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:



    "bharath_r" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I am new to windows vista. I shifted from xp to vista only a few days
    > back. One strange thing i have noticed is every time i try to run a
    > program i am asked whether i want to continue. The other thing is that
    > if i do not start VS2005 by saying 'run as administrator' i am not
    > able to debug my programs. I cannot debug ISAPI dlls, i cannot attach
    > to processes, although i am logged into my machine as administrator. I
    > there a way around this?
    >
    > Thanks
    > Bharath
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. bharath_r

    bharath_r Guest

    On Mar 27, 9:59 pm, Jesper <Jes...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > The second part of this is UAC related. Under UAC, even though you are a
    > member of the Administrators group, the SID for that group and the related
    > privileges are not in your token unless you elevate (Run as administrator....).
    >
    > There only way to get around that for debugging applications running as
    > other users is the obvious: elevate the debugger. The old trick of granting a
    > non-privileged account SeDebugPrivilege no longer works because UAC will
    > strip that privilege from your token, regardless of how you received it.
    >
    > As for your first question, I am not sure exactly what you mean by "every
    > time I run a program I am asked whether I want to continue." Are these UAC
    > prompts? If so, the "every time I run a program part" can't possibly be true.
    > The only reason those prompts would occur is if (a) the program is an
    > installer, ([​IMG] the program is designed to ask for elevation, or © you have
    > configured the program to run as an administrator. That should only be true
    > for a very small fraction of the programs you run. Could you please give more
    > details on what you mean by that claim, and which programs this happens with?
    >
    > ---
    > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
    >
    >
    >
    > "bharath_r" wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Hi all,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I am new to windows vista. I shifted from xp to vista only a few days
    > > back. One strange thing i have noticed is every time i try to run a
    > > program i am asked whether i want to continue. The other thing is that
    > > if i do not start VS2005 by saying 'run as administrator' i am not
    > > able to debug my programs. I cannot debug ISAPI dlls, i cannot attach
    > > to processes, although i am logged into my machine as administrator. I
    > > there a way around this?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Thanks
    > > Bharath- Hide quoted text -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > - Show quoted text -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Hey, thanks for the reply.

    Actually, you are right. From the day i switched, i had been
    installing many applications and hence was getting the elevation
    message many times. Yes the 'every time i run a program' part is not
    true. I was just fed up of that message popping up many times.

    Regards
    Bharath
     
  4. Jesper

    Jesper Guest

    > Actually, you are right. From the day i switched, i had been<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > installing many applications and hence was getting the elevation
    > message many times. Yes the 'every time i run a program' part is not
    > true. I was just fed up of that message popping up many times.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You should wait with passing judgement on it until you have the system
    mostly configured with all the apps you want. Once you are in steady state
    you shouldn't get many pop-ups.

    BTW, I'm not sure it is useful for you, but I wrote a couple of tools to
    elevate things more easily. Most notably, one of them elevates an instance of
    Windows Explorer so you can perform multiple file operations with one prompt
    (two if you are a regular user). There is more information at:
     

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