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Discussion in 'Browser Issues' started by GimboV, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. bassfisher6522

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    I want to see that evidence.

    With HDD's that are spinners.....the more is on there the slower it gets. Not to mention to convoluted order in which it's placed on the HDD. This is exactly why HDD defragers came to be. That's how they've always worked.

    With SSD's none of this is an issue. They were designed in such way to not act like spinners....over simplified.
     
  2. Rich M

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    True about SSD drives being faster but actually the heavier packed the drive the faster it runs.
     
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    Well you are experienced and have been lucky Rich using 10 cards on the net with no issues. If you have 10 card numbers out there sitting on servers, eventually some of those severs are going to be compromised. I use about 3 max, and I pay all bills through online banking that way I ~

    1. Don't have to sign up for all of the sites to manually pay a bill on so many sites.

    2. My credit card, or checking account isn't sitting on those servers.

    Of course it does help you tremendously that you know your personal computing security, but that is only on the local side -- there is still the net side (servers with your credit card numbers), but if you have been safe all this time you shouldn't have much to worry about.

    And remember for me it's not paranoia because I see the bad side of things when these very real stories hit customer service. I see (and protect) what really happens. It's kind of like the neighbor that tragically end up getting killed. You think it could never happen to them but it can.
     
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    Rich,

    I don't know how you could not clean the browser cache. After three months of usage I was having all sorts of weird issues. The most noticeable was with Hulu. When I would try and watch something on Hulu it would start with 4:52 seconds left of any show. Not sure how this happened but it did happen. The only thing that fixed it was cleaning the cache. In addition, I was getting weird click issues. Pages were not responding to clicks properly. Sometimes I would click on something and nothing would happen and other times things were opening that I didn't click on. This is the part that was most annoying. Again cleaning the cache fixed this issue. Now I have no idea what caused this issue but I am curious to its cause.
     
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    I had an issue with Firefox a few days ago. The site would load but the hourglass left top of address bar never stopped turning.
    It was quite annoying. Instead of the Mozilla icon was the hourglass.
    Clearing the cache fixed the problem.
     
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    You don't clear cache you can lose cash.


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    The only time I have ever cleared cache is when I was trying to make sure my problem wasn't memory because something would not display correctly or advance so sure I have done that from time to time but only for a specific issue. I mean the cache does empty itself depending on how you set it and create new and I always set it as big as is possible if I set it at all.
     
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    No Dougie I was not talking about Ssd drives only mechanistically ones move faster when they are more full.
    That does not apply to Ssd drives because there are no moving parts which is why my menti0on of boulder rolling down the hill gathering speed. The hard drive will actually spin faster once it hits its stride because it is more full, not true of Ssd's.
     
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    Rich, you said. "True about SSD drives being faster but actually the heavier packed the drive the faster it runs."
    There is nothing in that quote mentioning Spinner drives.So.....!!!!!

    The only way to speed up a spinner drive is by short-stroking the drive at the cost of some memory
    Amount of packed data will not make a spinner drive get faster.IMO.
    It's how data and what data is packed on a Spinner is relevant to speed.
     
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    Exactly what I said post #21...not in those exact words....but I thought it was understood.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't see your earlier post,Jimbo.:)
     
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    I agree I didn't say it well but I was talking about hard drives however let's agree to disagree.
     
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    I think I found the problem....with what we are talking about here. I almost certain you are referring to the RPM's of the HDD, physically spinning faster. Which could very well be...I never looked at it like that before....it just hit me when you said "let's agree to disagree". I went back and re-read entire thread.

    What the rest of us are talking about is the actual time it takes to access a full HDD. On an empty drive accessing one piece of software and running it takes a few seconds. Do the same thing on a full HDD and that access time turns in to 15, 30 or more seconds. It's just slower....
     
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    A simple full vs empty won't have any noticeable effect on the speed. What will affect the speed is the fragmentation level of the drive. If the files on a drive are highly fragmented it will be slower due to having to seek around to a bunch of different locations on the drive to read a file.
     
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    Joe yes and no because you are talking about response vs speed and Jimbo you get the brass ring it is rpms I am talking about which isn't necessarily access that I am talking about.
    I know I was failing to communicate but I didn't quite mange to fix it.
     
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    The threads I have read on the net, the HDD speed remains constant whether empty or near full.
    Access times vary depending for different reasons but not RPM's
     
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    correct as the drive need to defragment will slow it down this is a bach mark of a non defrag time and a frgmented same drive same data tranfer look at the difference 4-10-2016 11-44-38 AM.jpg 4-10-2016 11-45-09 AM.jpg look at avreage and access time and cpu when a hdd is fragmented hope thats shows what you looking for so the hdd slower when full its not a accurete statment
     
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    correct Dougie
     
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    Guys read any SSD test reviews. They start to get slower after about 50% full. Granted they are still way faster then a spinner but they do degrade as they fill. As for a spinner I don't think it cares how much is on it, to a point. The OS likes to have free space but don't think it matters to the drive. Now there is a speed difference to where the file is located on the drive. The inner sectors read faster.

    But none of this pertains to the original post of browser cache. :)
     
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