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After Reading This, Do You Think Children Should Be Spanked?

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  1. kayrose

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    Although the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) strongly discourages spanking, at least half of parents admit to physically punishing their children. Some research suggests that as many as 70-90 percent of mothers have resorted to spanking at one time or another. A new study published in the journal Pediatrics may cause parents to think more carefully before laying a hand on their little ones.
    Related: Should Your Child be Spanked at School?
    Researchers examined data from more than 34,000 adults and found that being spanked significantly increased the risk of developing mental health issues as adults. According to their results, corporal punishment is associated with mood disorders, including depression and anxiety, as well as personality disorders and alcohol and drug abuse. They estimate that as much as 7 percent of adult mental illness may be attributable to childhood physical punishment, including slapping, shoving, grabbing, and hitting. The study reports that spanking ups the risk of major depression by 41 percent, alcohol and drug abuse by 59 percent, and mania by 93 percent, among other findings.

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    "We're not talking about just a tap on the bum," study author Tracie Afifi, PhD, of the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg, explained in a statement. "We were looking at people who used physical punishment as a regular means to discipline their children." However, the analysis excluded individuals who reported more severe maltreatment such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, physical neglect, emotional neglect, or exposure to intimate partner violence.
    "It definitely points to the direction that physical punishment should not be used on children of any age," said Afifi. Researchers concluded, "It is important for pediatricians and other healthcare providers who work with children and parents to be aware of the link between physical punishment and mental disorders."
    The physical punishment of children is legal in the United States, although it is banned in at least 24 other countries. It's worth noting that 19 states also allow corporal punishment in schools. Earlier studies have linked spanking toddlers to increased aggression in older children. Spare the rod, spare the child?



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  2. CarolsSis

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    Having grown up in a family of 6 kids, and receiving physical punishment as a child, I don't agree that it's effective. I do agree that it causes problems later in life. I base my opinions on how our family was treated and how we are as adults. I have to say that I'm extremely relieved that my nephew and niece choose not to use it. I was so affected by it that I was excused from hearing a child abuse case, as a juror. I just could not have been unbiased.
     
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    I do agree that if done to the extreme it can leave some damage to the child. I have no problem with a quick pat on the bum once in awhile. I do think as a parent it is my responsibility to sit them down and talk to them and try to understand why they are acting up when they do. Once that is done I think it is also my job as a parent to discuss with them why they do not act like that. I feel if they want something you have to teach them to approac you in a civilized manner and take to you about what ever it is they are wanting. I will however have to say that I am always a little biased when it comes to studies like these. My biggest complaint is how can they prove that their study group would have ended up the way they did with a spanking. They could have ended up the same way either way. Maybe I am wrong but it's just my opinion so take it as you may.
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    Normal 'punishment' of children won't cause any problems in their later life.
    Excessive punishment will.
    If we are talking about the odd slap on the backside or the leg.... it won't do them any harm.
    It may even teach them that they can't always get their own way.
    There's too many 'do gooders' in the world now and they have caused the unruly behaviour of the our next generation.
    Kids today think they are untouchable and act accordingly.
    I received the odd 'Good hiding' when i was a kid and it didn't do me any harm.
    It didn't do my kids any harm either..... they are all a credit to the family.
     
  5. kayrose

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    I'm really not into dehumanizing anyone.
    and a slap, hit to me is just that.

    There are other ways, one can teach a child.

    I remember i use to yell at my son
    and he was the teacher ,
    not I

    he said mom I can hear and understand
    much more when you talk softly.

    sometimes i think THEY know more
    than we do.

    kr

    i do BELIEVE that chilldren
    do learn what they live.
     
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    I believe in an Ideal world no one would use violence as a form of discipline. but that's the problem, we don't live in an Ideal world. we live in a world where people lack the intelligence to control their emotions, and express their feelings, we live in a world of drug and alcohol abuse, of poverty and depression. of greed and jealousy, if you want to stop violence you need to tackle the causes not the effect,
     
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    We still have great gentlemen , and YOU are one of them.
    Love

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    Mainly because we are each unique and individual, cause and effect are part of a great circle where effect is the cause of the effect of the cause, with an untraceable beginning which goes a very long way back in time.
    As yet, the human race has not found any workable way to break that circle as it is indeed a part of human nature to be greedy, selfish, and then rather strangely, forgiving.
    So, when all talking stops, and one side refuses to give way to the other, violence has always been the next thing to try. Unfortunately, it always will be.
    That is because the side that wins is usually forgiven of any transgressions, hence why I used the "Strangely, forgiving"

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    Very deep here, Plastic,
    so does that mean the side that wins
    Should be forgiven,
    and IF So why should that be,
    and could that be accomplished?
    just my thoughts.

    Any answers,
    thanks
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    Just stating the facts actually, do a little research into how British and American troops and even the full governments acted during WW2. You will find neither of us came out of that war all lilly white, but those transgressions were forgiven, after all it was full out war was it not? So any means to an end and therefore winning the war was the end.
    Why were we forgiven for those transgressions, is the better question.
     
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    I THink many of these trangressions were NEVER forgiven.
     
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    That may also be true, in some circumstances and by certain people, but in general the German people have forgiven.
    They welcome British and American visitors, they also visit Britain and America. They may well be aware of, or old enough to remember, the fire storms that the bombing created that saw many thousands of German citizens killed. Yet they forgive us that, knowing now that it was necessary to defeat Hitler and his evil. Even though those thousands killed were individually innocent of any wrong doing themselves.

    It was supposed to be the war to end all wars, that the world would live in peace. That could only happen if all peoples could be made to feel ashamed of not only what was done, but also whatever has been planned and done since, as also whatever the worlds governments and terrorists are planning next.
    However, continue to plan further atrocities they will do, as somewhere inside every one of them they feel that they will be forgiven if they win.
     
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    Actually it was WWI that was labeled the war to end all wars. Glad to hear that we have been forgiven though. I was losing a lot of sleep over that one.
     
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    Actually a spanking might be better than filling your child with Ritalin or other drugs.
     
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    I will just add my two cent worth to this topic.

    definitely , no spankings and heaven for forbid
    no drugs.
    i enjoyed my son so very much.
    verryyyyyyyy active normal child, and
    would not dare use a chemical or
    a spanking to change him.

    kayrose
     
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    Well if this must continue, I have raised 3 well balanced children with a minimum of any sort of physical discipline. I can't say I never spanked my children because I have. It was not the norm and I would say probably no more than 10 times spread over 3 kids (3 1/3 a kid) not one of them remembers the spankings as much as what they did to cause it.

    Anything overdone becomes useless. Causing actual physical harm is both intolerable and unnecessary. The fact that some behavior is so unacceptable as to cause a parent to react in an extraordinary manner is enough. The fact that there actions were so disappointing to me is what is remembered. It is not the pain that is caused that will curb the behavior. My "spankings" never really hurt and I would be upset if they had.
     
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    wow, what great feeliings, Beeceebee,
    coming from a man that seems kinda stern at times,
    but has such a gentle heart.

    LOVE
    kayrose
     

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