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XP not getting assigned appropriate IP from DHCP Router

Discussion in 'Networking' started by Freehold Fred, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Freehold Fred

    Freehold Fred Registered Members

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    Calling all network Gurus. Got 2 systems, Win 7 and XP connected to Cisco/Linksys EA2700 dual-band wireless and wired router. My understanding of this router is that only the wireless portion is dual band

    Router on 192.168.1.1 DHCP Enabled with IPs starting at 1.100 Win 7 has no problem and is assigned 1.106 XP box can ping the router, but 'sees it as' DNS server, and 'sees' a DHCP server at 192.168.0.1! XP gets assigned 192.168.0.2 and can not connect to the Internet.

    I have released, renewed, flushdns, tried a static IP of 1.107 all to no avail (does get assigned to the static IP, but does not connect to the Internet. I've tried repair, disable/enable toggle.

    System used to work just fine until a day ago except I was not seeing the XP machine from the Win7 (and vice versa) since they were not on the same network (but are in the same workgroup name).

    Network Printer works fine and is on 192.1.1.9 (not clear about that IP assignment either).

    What step should I take to fix the network/router/XP machine to be on the same network as the Win7 and be abel to access the Internet?

    FF
     
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    Edited to add:
    Now I can connect my XP to the Internet via my wireless connection. The DHCP server is back to 192.168.1.1. and the IP assignment is 192.168.1.123. Still cannot see XP in Network Places, but can ping 1.123 (XP) from the Win7 box.

    What's going on?
    FF

    BTW, where is the Edit button?

    Say "Goodnight," Fred
     
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    I am not sure where the Edit Button is for a member, Fred.
    Maybe Cindy could log in as a member and tell you.
     
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  4. Tony D

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    If the router is 192.168.1.1 and the subnet mask is still 255.255.255.0, then as far as I know, everything on the network needs to be 192.168.1.x with x being between .2 and .255. The router is .1

    If your DHCP pool starts at .100, then your devices should start with .100. I can't explain why the XP machine is .123. All of the address between .100 and .122 must have already been taken. Or, you set the router to give the XP machine .123.

    If you can ping your devices, but can't 'see' them on them via Network Places, then it's a sharing setup on whatever device you can not see.

    Check to see that all devices are on the same Workgroup. Right click My Computer > Properties > Computer Name tab. If the workgroup is not the same as other computers, click on Change and set the Workgroup to be the same as the other devices. You may need to restart.
     
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    Fred where you wrote "Say goodnight Fred", don't you see the word "edit" right under where you wrote that. "Edit, History, Delete Report"...The print in this forum is sooo light, at times I can't see it either.
     
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    All devices are in same Workgroup: Home. Yep, DHCP pool starts at .100 and subnet 255.255.255.0. I wonder if I reset the router to factory reset?

    As of now, with XP .0.2 and Win7 on 1.x, the XP can see the Win7 but not vice versa. Both machines can connect to the Internet. I am really puzzled.
     
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    I see Edit on my new post(s), but not previous. I think the font just got darker too; I couldn't stand it before.

    Fred
     
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    You won't see "Edit" on previous posts.
    That's to stop members altering their posts after being replied to.
     
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    Sounds like a permissions setting. Could also be a firewall setting.

    Try temporarily turning off the XP firewall to see if that makes a difference. I ran into that problem just yesterday migrating a customer from XP to a new Mac. The Mac couldn't see the XP machine until I turned off the XP firewall.

    Also work with your file sharing settings. I did a search on Share XP files with Windows 7 and got lots of hits.
     
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    Fred Dougie is right and most forums don't allow editing after a certain time period, primarily to prevent users from going back and altering a post days later that changes the whole meaning of the post. But moderators can if you simply want to correct grammar or a thought gone wrong simply click "report" to ask for such assistance. Usually that time is 15 minutes or close to that.
     
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    Firewall was never on.

    With LAN disabled and wireless enabled on XP, all of a sudden I can now see each computer and share. Somehow, the gods of MS invoked a network healing service in the b/g. But I am connecting to the Internet wirelessly and want the LAN to do so.

    I have another XP machine on the same network that has 192.168.1.1. as gateway, dns, DHCP and is assigned 192.168.1.111. Everything works as expected. It is just this other XP box that has got a mind of its own.

    How do I blow away all of the network settings on this screwed-up XP box and start over. So far I have disable/enable/disable toggles, repairs, flushdns. How do I rebuild the network stack --- I think that is what it is called. If I remove MS Client, IP protocol, etc. will that suffice in rebuilding the network settings.
     
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    I understand that. I thought I wasn't seeing 'Edit' right after my post. Must have missed it.
     
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    Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt:

    To reset WINSOCK entries to installation defaults, type in netsh winsock reset catalog. Hit the Enter key
    Response should be:
    ‘You must restart the computer in order to complete the reset.

    To reset TCP/IP stack to installation defaults, type in netsh int ip reset reset.log. Hit the Enter key.
    Response should be:
    Reseting Global, OK!
    Reseting Interface, OL!
    Restart the computer to complete this action.

    Reboot the machine.
     
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    Mystery solved. When I moved my VOIP phones downstairs about a month ago, I moved the adapter as well. Lo and behold, I plugged my XP into the adapter thinking it was a pass through. Uh uhhh! It was daisy chained to the DHCP of the Phone Adapter. I moved everything over to 192.168.0.x and so far everything is working. I wondering now if I should have two routers on the same network.Thoughts?

    Thanks to all for input via BBS and PM.

    This is what I get for taking pain meds after a nasty fall I just had ;>).

    Fred
    <sympathy><sympathy><sympathy>
     
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    Here is the current topology of my Network:

    __Win 7 --------V____________ Network Printer--V----
    Modem ---> RouterA--->Port to Uplink Port --> Switch Out Port --->Wall Jack ---> Linksys VOIP Adapter/RouterB --->XP

    Hardware:
    RouterA - Cisco/Linksys EA27000
    The Uplink Port and Out Port are the same unit, the switch, D-Link DSS-8+
    RouterB - Linksys SPA3102 1-port

    I have Router A addressed as 192.168.0.254 and assigning x.x.0.100 to x.x.0.145,
    printer is on x.x.0.149

    I assigned, Router B is x.x.0.1, but Router A (Don't yell at me) is displaying
    it as 0.114. Router B provides just the 1 IP for the XP Machine, 0.134.
    I can ping both of these IPs, but cannot access RouterB admin or access
    XP shares from Win7.

    I don't want to turn off DHCP on RouterA, because it has connectivity to
    wireless devices on the fly.

    Ideally, right now, I think I would put the Phone Adapter/Router B and
    the XP box on separate lines off of the switch and not try to use the device
    as a router at all. I have 2-lines coming in right now at the location,
    but one is being used for the printer.

    I hope I have made this clear enough, now that I understand my topology
    and IP assignments a little better.
     
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    Plan B works for me as a switch Fred, I would not ever use 2 routers for that though. I would use a switch or access ;point if I needed the extra connectivity.
     

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