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Windows 10 on life support

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Fat Dave, Oct 19, 2023.

  1. Fat Dave

    Fat Dave Registered Members

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    Hello; I'm having major problems with Windows 10, it started with getting multiple BSD's & my computer keeps randomly restarting whether I'm doing anything or not like it just did when I started this & the newest thing is when it restarts the monitor is black but can see the pointer & I have to press ctrl+alt+delete to sign off & then sign back in & then it takes a long time to load again & it was suggested I rebuild my profile so I "tried" using "Account profile fixer" & as far as I can tell it ran right - but - it made things worse & Microsoft tools & other stuff disappeared off the Start menu plus other stuff stopped working & had to uninstall & reinstall some of it & it'd work for a while & quit again & I've ran DISM & sfc multiple times & both said they ran successfully but never made any noticeable difference so I was going to do the reinstall of Windows 10 saving my files & data & app.'s with the Media Creation Tool (ISO) I downloaded from Microsoft & it started out running like it showed in several You-Tube videos & then stops with the error 0x80080005-0x90018 & it was suggested to run the troubleshooter on Windows Up-Date & that came back with "Service registration is missing or corrupt" Not fixed & I disabled my anti-virus & that didn't help any & the last time I tried running the reinstall it didn't go very far & got the error 0x80072EE2-0x20000 & I even went through Windows Update to see if Windows 11 would work on here but that won't work either & basically I just want to run the reinstall for now saving all my files, data & app.'s. I backed up this drive on an external hard drive before I started but it has all the flaws this drive has & is a kind of stop gap to keep limping it on until I get something figured out & hopefully fixed & I'm really hoping somebody knows the answer & can cure the problem. Thank you.
     
  2. Tony D

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    Could be a failing hard drive. Better backup all your files now.

    To check the drive - Search for Command Prompt and select Run as Administrator.
    At the > prompt, type in chkdsk /r (Note the space followed by /r)
    Then press the Enter key.
    You'll get a message saying it can't run the chkdsk now because the disk is in use. That will be followed by a prompt asking if you want to run it when the computer restarts.
    Respond with a Y for yes and press the Enter key.
    Restart the computer and let chkdsk run. It may take a few hours.
     
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  3. Fat Dave

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    Hello again; I'm really sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this, I ran the chkdsk /r , I started it just before I went to bed & just shut the monitor off & it "seemed" like it was doing something & was showing 5 to 7 hours on my 1tb hard drive when I shut the monitor off & went to bed & the next morning there was an error window saying it could not run the program & no logs or any other info & now DISM & sfc don't work right anymore, DISM can't find a specific place/file & just seems to get worse every day & some times the cure seems worse than the problem. I've been thinking about just upgrading to 11 but my AMD A8-5500B APU isn't supported on the Windows 11 list & now I'm thinking of upgrading my motherboard & processor & will take any advice on "budget" stuff, I kinda looked at an ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570 because it was suggested & in the "budget" class & the AMD Ryzen series of CPU's but nothing is set in concrete & I'm wide open to suggestions & something that will use the SATA hard drives & the newer generation of DDR4 or 5 memory & as much as I can stuff into it & for semi good stuff but as cheap as I can get away with. I did back up this whole drive to an external hard drive but it pretty much has all the flaws this 1 does & I've ran system restore 5 or 6 times from different restore points & still end up right about where I was with the same messed up ssstuff. I try to build my own machines & can do a pretty good job at it & running Windows 10 has really educated me at debugging stuff until now & can't figure out this dose of Windows 10 crap. Is there a reliable source on the Internet to get PC parts ? But thought I'd better up-date this & hopefully get more info on other stuff. Thank you for your help & advice so far & hope you can show me the way to move on. P.S. is Windows 11 worth all the trouble or is it unstable & buggy like 10 ?
     
  4. plodr

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    One never upgrades the operating system on a computer that is having problems with the current operating system. All that does is create more headaches. You need to get Windows 10 working correctly first. After that is done, then you can consider upgrading. Windows 10 is supported for 2 more years so you have time. EOL October 14, 2025.

    In the future, create images of your computer so if something goes wrong, you restore the image. (This is NOT the same as trying to use a restore point).

    I do not run Windows 10 so I'm unable to provide any meaningful help. I do however create images of our four computers running Windows 7 on seven portable external hard drives. Those images have saved me headaches on several computers when something went wrong or a Windows update broke something.
     
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  5. Tony D

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    If your machine was here, I'd remove the drive and attach it another computer via a SATA to USB adapter. Then I'd run chkdsk.

    If you don't have another computer to work with and you have a Windows 10 USB install drive, boot to the drive and run chkdsk from the drive. I found instructions on-line (because I don't remember the exact steps myself).

    Please create an installation media if it is not available. You may download an ISO from the below link:
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

    Follow the steps below and see if it helps:

    1. Insert the installation disc or USB flash drive, and then restart your computer.
    2. Press any key when prompted to do so, and then follow any instructions that appear.
    3. When the Install Windows page appears, click Install now to begin the installation process or click Repair your computer to access system recovery options.
    4. Click on “Repair your computer” from the lower left corner.
    5. From the “Choose an option screen”, click on “Troubleshoot”.
    6. Click “Advanced Options” in the “Troubleshoot” screen.
    7. In the “Advanced Options “click command prompt.
    8. Then enter the chkdsk command chkdsk c: /f/r and press enter
     
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  6. Fat Dave

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    Hello again; I'm trying to stay focused on fixing this worthless Windows 10 & still trying to run the Media Creation Tool but still get the error 0x80080005-0x90018 & I have ran the up-date trouble shooter & got the error "Service registration is missing or corrupt" but when I run the regular check for Windows up-dates it seems to work OK & I've tried shutting down my antivirus & that never helped any & I "think" if I can get the Media Creation Tool to run it "might" work, I can get to the Upgrade this PC part & it's after that when I get the error stuff & I've tried both just running it & trying to run as Administrator & keep getting the same results, it keeps saying Getting a few things ready in between everything so it "seems" like it's trying to work. There is another thing that started happening & the desktop icons flash about every 30 seconds or so like they're constantly refreshing & don't know what's causing that or if it has anything to do with the Creation Tool not working. The problem pretty much started after I ran that profile fixer trying to fix the BSD & sudden shut down & restart problem I was having which seems really mild to the problems I'm having now & that profile fixer "seemed" to run right but in hind sight was a very big mistake I guess, that part about the cure being worse than the problem. But hope this will help you all in some way. Thank you all again for your help & suggestions.
     
  7. plodr

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    Here is a thread with the same error as you see. The Media Creation Tool did not work so the support person suggested using Rufus to create a bootable Windows 10 up to date version.
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...80080005/6a7b4cec-009b-4a05-a9d9-82e97cc93e61

    Note: I tried to use Rufus a few times and it never worked for me. Since I was mainly dealing with linux, I switched to using another program.
    Rufus: https://rufus.ie/en/

    I did go here https://tb.rg-adguard.net/public.php
    and was able to select Windows (final), then version 22H2, ...English, and finally an x64 or x86 version. I didn't attempt to download anything.
    So I suspect you can download or get someone to download the ISO for you because your computer is acting up.
     
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  8. Fat Dave

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    Hello yet again; I've been exploring a different option & wondering what you think about the "reset this pc" option in the control panel recovery option, will this work like the Media creation tool ? I see it mentions saving my personal files but after all the alleged cures I've tried & made things worse I'm leery as hell about trying anything again. 1 question is will I need my Windows 10 installation CD to run it & my Windows registration key number & what kind of changes could I expect to happen ? I have my hard drive fully backed up on an external hard drive "just in case" . Thank you all again for your help & advice.
     
  9. plodr

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    I can not answer that because a) I have never used a "reset this pc" option and b) I don't run Windows 10 so I have no way to test it.
     
  10. allheart55 (Cindy E)

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    You won't need your installation CD or your Windows key.
    It will activate automatically as soon as you connect to the internet.
    You can opt to keep all your personal files, such as documents, music, photos etc.
    It will give you a completely new installation of Windows so any changes you've made or fixes you've applied to the system will be gone.
    You will lose any programs and applications you have installed and you will need to reinstall anything you wish to keep.
     
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  11. Fat Dave

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    Hello; I downloaded the Media Creation Tool to a USB flash drive on a working & stable PC & I was wondering if I have to actually boot into the USB drive or can I just use the set-up file on the USB drive & bypass the boot up method ? I'm trying to use the save my files & app's option & I'm not sure if the boot up way will let me do that, I'd like to control the process as much as I can without any excess confusion. Thank you all again for your help.
     
  12. allheart55 (Cindy E)

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    You don't need the media creation tool or anything else, just your computer.
    The windows installation files already exist on your computer.
    No worries.
    You don't need to boot to anything.
    Just follow the prompts in the reset.
    You'll be good to go in no time.
     
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  13. Fat Dave

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    Hi - I "finally" got that Media Creation Tool to run from my USB flash drive & it "seemed" like it ran right & *allegedly* reinstalled Windows 10 but did get 1 message saying it was taking longer than expected but they'd get it done & when it was done (took 2 hours) there was nothing like a welcome to Windows or it had finished or anything & just dumped me out on the desktop & it did save my files & app's & I had to re-tweak getting the icons all resized etc. but it wiped my Private Firewall off & trying to reinstall that opened up a new can of worms, when I go into My PC > Downloads & click on my download for the firewall or *try* to it locks up & the mouse pointer turns into a spinning circle & I went to the task manager & the Windows Explorer is on the top & when I was going to end task it showed restart instead of end task & I click on that & everything flashes but doesn't fix the locking up part in the downloads & I went through the task manager & ended Windows explore & went to file & run a new or whatever & the "explorer.exe" & that doesn't do anything but just about everything else kind of works like my app's, e-mail & browser & I use Microsoft Edge & have to click yes on the User Account little window which I had to do before I did this reinstall ssstuff but now I have to do it on 2 of those little windows instead of just 1 & only 1 browser window opens. ALL the icons on the desktop & the task bar still flash like it's constantly refreshing everything & booting up is a whole different problem, if I get lucky - & I'm not - it'll load right into the desktop but more often than not it'll get to my welcome screen with my picture nice & clear & then the screen goes black & the only thing you can see is a little pop-up box with my boot time & the pointer & I let it sit up to 5 minutes + & "maybe" it'll "finally" show the desktop & even then it could take 30 seconds to a full minute or slightly more for the icon's to load on the taskbar & then the Windows start-up sound plays. Right after I 1st got it going I checked for Windows up-dates & got a couple of those which took forever but that's all up to date & I use Driver Booster 11 & by that all my hardware & software drivers are up to date. I foolishly had high expectations after the media creation tool "seemed" to run right but I'm extremely disappointed with the results. But I guess 1 gain is it will run both DISM sfc right again & either repair whatever or say there's no problems I ran both twice with no error's I was so ticked that I even tried the Reset this PC & that didn't even remotely work, it would start & then start pumping out errors & excuses. This thing used to be fairly fast & "somewhat" reliable & now it's weak & feeble & very unstable. Is there a way to "fix" Windows Explorer without screwing anything up even worse than it already is ? I'd still like to make it work right again but still feel like I'm beating a dead horse. But letting you all know how the nightmare is going & hopefully 1 or all of you have the cure. Thank you all again
     
  14. allheart55 (Cindy E)

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    I don't understand why you went ahead with the media creation tool when all you needed to do was reset the computer.
    You only needed to RESET your computer, you didn't actually have to reinstall from scratch.
     
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    What he said.
     
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    AHHH, yes.
    That's usually the issue, more often than not, when these type of problems crop up.
     
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  17. Fat Dave

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    I "assumed" that since DISM & sfc weren't working right that the stored back-up copy of Windows 10 had became corrupted & that hopefully reinstalling a fresh copy of Windows 10 would replace any corrupted files & the Media Creation Tool would be a source for a fresh set of files & thought the Reset PC method would be working off of anything that was corrupted in the stored back-up files & was "trying" to restart fresh which it appears to have blown up in my face & has created a whole new batch of errors like with having to constantly restarting Windows Explorer & the taskbar being extremely slow to load the icon's or having to restart several times before they will load. Windows 10 has pretty much been a pain in the a$$ since I started using it & was pretty much forced on me, I was very happy using Windows 7 . Thank you all for your help with this disaster I very deeply appreciate all your help & hopefully you will be the miracle I'm looking for. Thank you !
     
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    Your best bet would be to do a fresh install assuming your hard drive is good. If you have your files backed up you will only need to reinstall what apps you had. Sometimes it is so messed up that a reset just creates more problems. If you choose to do a fresh install and it still has problems then I would say your hard drive is going.
     
  19. Fat Dave

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    Just a quick note, I have a program called Win Patrol & I was checking it to see if there was anything blocking anything & under the options tab I found a check box for Windows Explorer Intergration & checked the box & "so far" the Windows Explorer problem "seems" to be fixed & I was able to go into my downloads & reinstall my Private Firewall & the taskbar & desktop load right up. But since there is doubt about my hard drive health I still might swap to a new hard drive & reinstall Windows 10 & start from scratch which will be a very looong process. I'll definitely let you know if this "accidental" fix keeps working or is just a temporary thing. I just can't thank you all enough for all your help & advice. THANK YOU !!!!!
     
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    Why haven't you run the chkdsk?
     
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