Vista Service Pack update is junk

Well I don't know. You seem determined that Microsoft can't help, but
they've always been bery helpful to me.

Try it again. See "Other Support Options" on the right of this page
'Windows Vista Solution Center' ()

Change the Country as appropriate at the top.


--
Ex_Brit

::*-Peter-*::
-Toronto, Canada-
-x64 Vista Ultimate SP2 & Windows 7 Ultimate-
'[image: ' ([url=https://mvp.support.microso...ofile/Peter.McNicol[url]) -Consumer Security-

 

scorpionleather wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm looking for a real fix for this bug, other than re-installing
> Vista. e.g. Someone tell me WHY 3 out of 6 computers failed. What
> is the technical reason? You don't fix technical programmer
> problems just by tinkering around aimlessley with the
> configuration. Michael I don't think your post adds anything to
> the discussion, you just don't want to hear that there is a
> programming error in the SP2 installer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

In order to tell you why each of the individual computers failed would take
investigation of each. There are various reasons such an installation could
fail - ranging from corrupt system files to conflicting software installed.
Some antivirus software can scan files and interrupt the process, some
malware can as well. A bad hard disk drive, a certain program being loaded
at the time of the install, the installation of pre-release software without
proper preparation, etc and so on.

If you actually want help you would need to pick one of the machine and give
details - from the software installed to how you went about installing SP2.
What is shown in the event log? What is shown in the WindowsUpdate log?
What antivirus software is installed? What antimalware software have you
run and is any running resident? What patches (excluding SP1) are now
installed?

Again - repair install is not a re-install, per se. It essentially replaces
the system files - that's all.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

 

scorpionleather;1114108 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> None of the 3 machines had any registry cleaner run on them (or any
> other
> unusual utilities). My brother/parents stick to using the default apps,
> such as IE and Word and don't go much beyond that.
>
> They were all up to date with Windows Update patches just prior to the
> SP2
> install. In fact that's the only way that SP2 install pops up as an
> available option.. only after the other updates are installed first..<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It's interesting that you are having all those problems on 2 different
laptops as well as a desktop with SP when I saw 3 successful
installations of SP2 first on an existing installation condifigured in a
dual boot with XP and 7, later a clean install to replace the first, and
later a Vista installation on the then Virtual PC beta for 7 and not one
problem!

Intially with the SPs for XP as well as SP1 for Vista MS had to make a
small correction when each service pack was first released and there
were problems then. Those were soon corrected however where the same
systems having problems were later able to see the service packs go
right on. Something is wrong or being done wrong there to be having all
those problems on 3 different systems to start with.


--
Night Hawk

 

"scorpionleather" <scorpionleather@nospam.noemail.com> wrote in message
news:OwCPk8sHKHA.5256@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm looking for a real fix for this bug, other than re-installing Vista.
> e.g. Someone tell me WHY 3 out of 6 computers failed. What is the
> technical reason? You don't fix technical programmer problems just by
> tinkering around aimlessley with the configuration. Michael I don't think
> your post adds anything to the discussion, you just don't want to hear
> that there is a programming error in the SP2 installer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You've already been given suggestions. I've done 25 machines without a
single problem. The fact that you're running at 50% leads me to believe
you've tinkered with half, hence the 3 that have problems. I'm not the
technical guru here. No one here *works* for Microsoft, so you blowing off
steam here isn't going to get you anything but comments like mine. Chill
out and ask legitimate questions, keeping in mind the MVP's here, among a
few others, will do their best to help you. Otherwise, talk to the hand!

--

Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTz3mCtHKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Please eliminate the crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup in all further
> replies to this thread.
>
> scorpionleather wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Yes so that someone in India can ask me to run dozens of analysis scans
>> on
>> the computers, disable everything etc. to waste my time for a few hours,
>> only to end up re-installing Vista at the end. No thanks, I'd rather see
>> Microsoft issue a patch through Windows Update, because SP2 install
>> failed
>> on 3 out of 6 computers I tried. More than just coincidence or "unusual
>> configuration." More like a programming bug. Software bugs are not
>> fixed
>> by talking to someone on the phone.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

My bad. I didn't check the headers.
--

Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTz3mCtHKHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Please eliminate the crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup in all further
> replies to this thread.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

When I do "reply group" in the Windows Mail application ewsreader, it only
says microsoft.public.windows.vista.general in the Newsgroups: field. I
have no idea why it is cross-posting to the Windows Update newsgroup.

 

There is frequent mention of antivirus, and I did try while disabling this
prior to attempting to install the standalone full install of SP2. One
computer has AVG Free, the other has NOD32, and the third has Bitdefender.

Now, the thing that has me perplexed is that these 3 computers are
completely different ages and types (desktop + laptops) from different
manufacturers (Dell + another) and different methods of original Vista
install media (OEM + off the shelf CD)... and there is nothing in common
with the types of applications installed on these machines, as they don't
belong to me so the only thing I do is to make sure they are doing their
security updates.

I spent several hours researching my mother's Vista SP2 failure, and
ultimately that led to the possible solution of re-installing or restoring
Vista entirely, and that did not seem like an acceptable solution. Then the
other two computers also failed their installs with different error codes
and I was totally shocked this could happen to such a major OS.

 

scorpionleather;1114184 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> There is frequent mention of antivirus, and I did try while disabling
> this
> prior to attempting to install the standalone full install of SP2. One
> computer has AVG Free, the other has NOD32, and the third has
> Bitdefender.
>
> Now, the thing that has me perplexed is that these 3 computers are
> completely different ages and types (desktop + laptops) from different
> manufacturers (Dell + another) and different methods of original Vista
> install media (OEM + off the shelf CD)... and there is nothing in
> common
> with the types of applications installed on these machines, as they
> don't
> belong to me so the only thing I do is to make sure they are doing
> their
> security updates.
>
> I spent several hours researching my mother's Vista SP2 failure, and
> ultimately that led to the possible solution of re-installing or
> restoring
> Vista entirely, and that did not seem like an acceptable solution. Then
> the
> other two computers also failed their installs with different error
> codes
> and I was totally shocked this could happen to such a major OS.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Tell us something here are you working with one single download or have
you downloaded a separate copy for each one? If the first download is
somehow found incomplete somehow the first step would be to simply
download a fresh copy for each of the three there.

If you simply are dragging SP2 onto an rw disk and moving the same
download from machine to machine being a bad download dump it and go for
another! If all three are connected online download a fresh copy to each
by itself. That would be the practical approach since everyone else has
been seeing favorable results.


--
Night Hawk

 

In some of my earlier posts, I mentioned that I'm just using the Windows
Update feature - I'm not burning the SP2 onto a CD or anything like that.
When the Windows Update feature does not work, then I go to the Microsoft
website and download the full SP2 standalone installer. I do this
individually from each computer (totally different days, different people's
houses). There is nothing as far as me introducing any common-thing into
the system. Unless somehow I click the mouse differently than other people
click on Windows Update.

 

That was simply to start ruling out all common factors between the two
laptops and desktop all this is being seen on. There would seem to be
one thing in common whether hidden or in plain sight between the three
that would explain why this is happening to begin with.

Once you find out just what that is you can move on from there and no
longer have to worry with them updated. In other words you have to
"divide and conquer" all of the processes that are running on all three
to isolate the one thing common.

Whether it's the User Account Control, Windows or other firewall, or
some other 3rd party program common to the three that's what you would
need to find there.


--
Night Hawk

 

"Night Hawk" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:c7234e217e211e25604a8b0fe9ceac27@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> That was simply to start ruling out all common factors between the two
> laptops and desktop all this is being seen on. There would seem to be
> one thing in common whether hidden or in plain sight between the three
> that would explain why this is happening to begin with.
>
> Once you find out just what that is you can move on from there and no
> longer have to worry with them updated. In other words you have to
> "divide and conquer" all of the processes that are running on all three
> to isolate the one thing common.
>
> Whether it's the User Account Control, Windows or other firewall, or
> some other 3rd party program common to the three that's what you would
> need to find there.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That is good scientific thinking. They all have Microsoft Office 2007,
they're all using Vista Sidebar Gadgets turned on, etc. and I can't think of
any system-level utilities that they would all have in common. In other
words they don't have any anti-spyware or fancy OS-level software that plugs
into system-level features. Two of them have Carbonite backup, but not all
three. It's just applications in common, processes that are not started
until you click on the icon (not running as background services). In fact I
go on to their computers sometimes and use Sysinternals Autoruns to disable
any 3rd party startup programs that I find that shouldn't be booting at
startup (such as QuickTime task, etc.) which could slow the performance.

Now, keep in mind, all three failed install of SP2 in different ways. One
showed a false "successful" install and SP2 keeps popping up as an available
update. The other keeps reverting back to SP1 only after reboot. The third
shows an error during the install routine prior to reboot. The error codes
are different. So this also indicates that maybe there's not much in common
on the systems, but instead something messed up inside the software logic of
SP2 itself.

 

scorpionleather;1114287 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Night Hawk" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
> news:c7234e217e211e25604a8b0fe9ceac27@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >
> > > That was simply to start ruling out all common factors between the<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > two<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > laptops and desktop all this is being seen on. There would seem to be
> > > one thing in common whether hidden or in plain sight between the<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > three<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > that would explain why this is happening to begin with.
> > >
> > > Once you find out just what that is you can move on from there and no
> > > longer have to worry with them updated. In other words you have to
> > > "divide and conquer" all of the processes that are running on all<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > three<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > to isolate the one thing common.
> > >
> > > Whether it's the User Account Control, Windows or other firewall, or
> > > some other 3rd party program common to the three that's what you<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > would<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > need to find there. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That is good scientific thinking. They all have Microsoft Office
> 2007,
> they're all using Vista Sidebar Gadgets turned on, etc. and I can't
> think of
> any system-level utilities that they would all have in common. In
> other
> words they don't have any anti-spyware or fancy OS-level software
> that plugs
> into system-level features. Two of them have Carbonite backup, but
> not all
> three. It's just applications in common, processes that are not
> started
> until you click on the icon (not running as background services). In
> fact I
> go on to their computers sometimes and use Sysinternals Autoruns to
> disable
> any 3rd party startup programs that I find that shouldn't be booting
> at
> startup (such as QuickTime task, etc.) which could slow the
> performance.
>
> Now, keep in mind, all three failed install of SP2 in different ways.
> One
> showed a false "successful" install and SP2 keeps popping up as an
> available
> update. The other keeps reverting back to SP1 only after reboot. The
> third
> shows an error during the install routine prior to reboot. The error
> codes
> are different. So this also indicates that maybe there's not much in
> common
> on the systems, but instead something messed up inside the software
> logic of
> SP2 itself.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well there does seem to be one item in common. Gadgets! Some of those
connect online through your usual internet connection like feed gadgets
in particular. Those should be closed out if any are running. But even
if they are not you may have to start looking at possible registry
issues.


--
Night Hawk

 

<snipped>
In Vista General newsgroup (may have some overlap due to crossposting with
WindowsUpdate):

(longer, gets off-topic more through argument instead of discussion)

In WindowsUpdate newsgroup (may have some overlap due to crossposting with
Vista General):

(not quite as long, less argumentative - although it either has or will
happen)


scorpionleather wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm looking for a real fix for this bug, other than re-installing
> Vista. e.g. Someone tell me WHY 3 out of 6 computers failed. What
> is the technical reason? You don't fix technical programmer
> problems just by tinkering around aimlessley with the
> configuration. Michael I don't think your post adds anything to
> the discussion, you just don't want to hear that there is a
> programming error in the SP2 installer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Shenan Stanley wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In order to tell you why each of the individual computers failed
> would take investigation of each. There are various reasons such
> an installation could fail - ranging from corrupt system files to
> conflicting software installed. Some antivirus software can scan
> files and interrupt the process, some malware can as well. A bad
> hard disk drive, a certain program being loaded at the time of the
> install, the installation of pre-release software without proper
> preparation, etc and so on.
> If you actually want help you would need to pick one of the machine
> and give details - from the software installed to how you went
> about installing SP2. What is shown in the event log? What is
> shown in the WindowsUpdate log? What antivirus software is
> installed? What antimalware software have you run and is any
> running resident? What patches (excluding SP1) are now installed?
>
> Again - repair install is not a re-install, per se. It essentially
> replaces the system files - that's all.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

scorpionleather wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> There is frequent mention of antivirus, and I did try while
> disabling this prior to attempting to install the standalone full
> install of SP2. One computer has AVG Free, the other has NOD32,
> and the third has Bitdefender.
> Now, the thing that has me perplexed is that these 3 computers are
> completely different ages and types (desktop + laptops) from
> different manufacturers (Dell + another) and different methods of
> original Vista install media (OEM + off the shelf CD)... and there
> is nothing in common with the types of applications installed on
> these machines, as they don't belong to me so the only thing I do
> is to make sure they are doing their security updates.
>
> I spent several hours researching my mother's Vista SP2 failure, and
> ultimately that led to the possible solution of re-installing or
> restoring Vista entirely, and that did not seem like an acceptable
> solution. Then the other two computers also failed their installs
> with different error codes and I was totally shocked this could
> happen to such a major OS.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

They don't necessarily have to have a piece of software in common. They can
have a maintenance plan in commoon (or lack of one) or they could all be
used by an individual who might have visited the same web page, got infested
by the same malware (unbeknownst to them) or made some of the same changes
to the systems in question without knowing it might later come back to cause
issues and thus - doesn't remember when the time does come they even made
said changes.

Yes - all three *now* have different AV software. Did they (any pair of
them) ever have one of the other systems current AV installed? What about
antimalware applications? All threee of them ever have anything specific
run on them to clear something up? What about other third party software
(from security software like firewalls to just plain software, like Adobe
products, Corel products, other freeware and paid software?) Any specific
tweaks done to all three systems to speed up things? A registry edit for
the networking here, a change for hibernation there, maybe a turning off of
specific services so that they do not load at startup? How often is
software installed/uninstalled on the systems and by what manner?

How are the systems backed up and how often? How often are they
defragmented? What about CHKDSK? Scanned for malware (not viruses, but
things most AV software will not pick up...)? Do they all have the same
post-SP2 patches installed?

*I had found, in my research with that one computer I had issue with, there
was supposedly someone who had called Microsoft with the issue and in the
end, Microsoft had them remove a certain patch, reboot - and they could
install SP2 for Windows Vista - some others removed the language packs -
which happened in SP1 installs as well. Many merely had to disable most of
their 'resident' software to get it to install. A few had to do malware
scans and cleanup a bit - some even had to get rid of old install leftovers
that were blocking them.

Sometimes the clue was buried in the C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log file.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

 

Shenan Stanley;1114395 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <snipped>
> In Vista General newsgroup (may have some overlap due to crossposting
> with
> WindowsUpdate):
> 'microsoft.public.windows.vista.general | Google Groups'
> ()
> (longer, gets off-topic more through argument instead of discussion)
>
> In WindowsUpdate newsgroup (may have some overlap due to crossposting
> with
> Vista General):
> 'Vista Service Pack update is junk - microsoft.public.windowsupdate |
> Google Groups'
> ()
> (not quite as long, less argumentative - although it either has or will
> happen)
>
>
> scorpionleather wrote:> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > I'm looking for a real fix for this bug, other than re-installing
> > > Vista. e.g. Someone tell me WHY 3 out of 6 computers failed. What
> > > is the technical reason? You don't fix technical programmer
> > > problems just by tinkering around aimlessley with the
> > > configuration. Michael I don't think your post adds anything to
> > > the discussion, you just don't want to hear that there is a
> > > programming error in the SP2 installer. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > In order to tell you why each of the individual computers failed
> > > would take investigation of each. There are various reasons such
> > > an installation could fail - ranging from corrupt system files to
> > > conflicting software installed. Some antivirus software can scan
> > > files and interrupt the process, some malware can as well. A bad
> > > hard disk drive, a certain program being loaded at the time of the
> > > install, the installation of pre-release software without proper
> > > preparation, etc and so on.
> > > If you actually want help you would need to pick one of the machine
> > > and give details - from the software installed to how you went
> > > about installing SP2. What is shown in the event log? What is
> > > shown in the WindowsUpdate log? What antivirus software is
> > > installed? What antimalware software have you run and is any
> > > running resident? What patches (excluding SP1) are now installed?
> > >
> > > Again - repair install is not a re-install, per se. It essentially
> > > replaces the system files - that's all. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> scorpionleather wrote:> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > There is frequent mention of antivirus, and I did try while
> > > disabling this prior to attempting to install the standalone full
> > > install of SP2. One computer has AVG Free, the other has NOD32,
> > > and the third has Bitdefender.
> > > Now, the thing that has me perplexed is that these 3 computers are
> > > completely different ages and types (desktop + laptops) from
> > > different manufacturers (Dell + another) and different methods of
> > > original Vista install media (OEM + off the shelf CD)... and there
> > > is nothing in common with the types of applications installed on
> > > these machines, as they don't belong to me so the only thing I do
> > > is to make sure they are doing their security updates.
> > >
> > > I spent several hours researching my mother's Vista SP2 failure, and
> > > ultimately that led to the possible solution of re-installing or
> > > restoring Vista entirely, and that did not seem like an acceptable
> > > solution. Then the other two computers also failed their installs
> > > with different error codes and I was totally shocked this could
> > > happen to such a major OS. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> They don't necessarily have to have a piece of software in common.
> They can
> have a maintenance plan in commoon (or lack of one) or they could all
> be
> used by an individual who might have visited the same web page, got
> infested
> by the same malware (unbeknownst to them) or made some of the same
> changes
> to the systems in question without knowing it might later come back
> to cause
> issues and thus - doesn't remember when the time does come they even
> made
> said changes.
>
> Yes - all three *now* have different AV software. Did they (any pair
> of
> them) ever have one of the other systems current AV installed? What
> about
> antimalware applications? All threee of them ever have anything
> specific
> run on them to clear something up? What about other third party
> software
> (from security software like firewalls to just plain software, like
> Adobe
> products, Corel products, other freeware and paid software?) Any
> specific
> tweaks done to all three systems to speed up things? A registry edit
> for
> the networking here, a change for hibernation there, maybe a turning
> off of
> specific services so that they do not load at startup? How often is
> software installed/uninstalled on the systems and by what manner?
>
> How are the systems backed up and how often? How often are they
> defragmented? What about CHKDSK? Scanned for malware (not viruses,
> but
> things most AV software will not pick up...)? Do they all have the
> same
> post-SP2 patches installed?
>
> *I had found, in my research with that one computer I had issue with,
> there
> was supposedly someone who had called Microsoft with the issue and in
> the
> end, Microsoft had them remove a certain patch, reboot - and they
> could
> install SP2 for Windows Vista - some others removed the language
> packs -
> which happened in SP1 installs as well. Many merely had to disable
> most of
> their 'resident' software to get it to install. A few had to do
> malware
> scans and cleanup a bit - some even had to get rid of old install
> leftovers
> that were blocking them.
>
> Sometimes the clue was buried in the C:WindowsWindowsUpdate.log
> file.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> 'How To Ask Questions The Smart Way'
> ()<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That sums up things quite a bit! By this time I likely would have seen
three clean installs or restorations on each machine following a wipe to
insure no "bugs"(malwares) were present and ended up having both service
packs go right on since the disk here is a pre SP1 release.

With a drive now free from testing 7 I still have to see another clean
install of the 32bit Vista Home Premium there where both service packs
will go right on all over again. For scorpianleather we both come to the
same conclusions that some one or more common factor is preventing SP2
from seeing a normal installation and not the fault of the service pack
itself.


--
Night Hawk

 

scorpionleather wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> The interesting thing is the totally different way that the 3 systems
> failed during install.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

*snips the rest of the clutter*

You just explained how it can't be a "bug with the installer" if it was
a bug with the installer, wouldn't it be the SAME error on 3 different
machines? Just sounds like each of those machines has some unique issue
that causes it to fail, no fault of Microsoft's!

You've been told time and again how to make it work, you refuse any help
besides "Well, Microsoft needs to write a patch to fix this bug!" when
there is no proof that a bug exists! Yes, there is a problem but I'm led
to believe its not with the installer but some unique combination (or
combinations as the 3 machines seem to have different software/hardware)
that just so happen to be combinations the installer doesn't like.

Just sounds like you are one of the most unlucky people on the planet.
Just do the steps others have directed and it will fix the problem, or
you can keep complaining about how evil Microsoft is and how they need
to write custom versions of their software especially for you and see
what happens.

 

milt;1116187 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> scorpionleather wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > >
> > > The interesting thing is the totally different way that the 3 systems
> > > failed during install.
> > > > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> *snips the rest of the clutter*
>
> You just explained how it can't be a "bug with the installer" if it
> was
> a bug with the installer, wouldn't it be the SAME error on 3
> different
> machines? Just sounds like each of those machines has some unique
> issue
> that causes it to fail, no fault of Microsoft's!
>
> You've been told time and again how to make it work, you refuse any
> help
> besides "Well, Microsoft needs to write a patch to fix this bug!"
> when
> there is no proof that a bug exists! Yes, there is a problem but I'm
> led
> to believe its not with the installer but some unique combination (or
> combinations as the 3 machines seem to have different
> software/hardware)
> that just so happen to be combinations the installer doesn't like.
>
> Just sounds like you are one of the most unlucky people on the
> planet.
> Just do the steps others have directed and it will fix the problem,
> or
> you can keep complaining about how evil Microsoft is and how they
> need
> to write custom versions of their software especially for you and see
> what happens.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well each is entitled to their own opinions while I tend to agree that
some one or more thing is preventing a normal installation of the
service pack. For each laptop and the desktop the unique situation will
need to be corrected in order to see a sucessfull installation of SP2.

By this time MS has already corrected any initial installer bugs as
seen with previous SPs for both XP and Vista alike as well as with other
versions whenever a new one has come out. SP2 has already been out for a
few months already where any initial "bugs" would have been addressed.


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Night Hawk