Vista or XP?

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> NoStop wrote:
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> His point is that along with a P.O.S. toy operating system, he also
>> likes to
>> use P.O.S. hardware.
>>
>> Cheers.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So he's using that POS toy os urbuttoo huh?
> Well good luck having any hardware work on that crap os!
> Frank<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I just nuked an XP installation and installed Ubuntu. XP's silly BSOD
said it was a hardware problem and it wouldn't boot into Normal or Safe
Mode. I wiped XP and installed Ubuntu and Ubuntu had NO problem with the
hardware and the client, needless to say, was thrilled.

Alias

 

alexB wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> My point is that this printer which is a very nice piece of hardware,
> great looking and compact, standing next to my 5 grand new dell T7400
> may be purchased by someone who wants to have quality printing and
> digital input.
>
> My point is that it is affordable and it is quality.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Considering that the OP was talking about a scanner and a camera, again,
what's your point? What low priced, POS camera do you suggest?

You spent five grand on a Dell? LOL!

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OlOidcaIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> alexB wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> A combo: printer + scanner + fax + color photo printer (Dell 968)
>>> costs 99.99, brand new at DELL.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Your point?
>>
>> Alias<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:unjA7FcaIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> mh64 wrote:
>>>>> Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital
>>>>> camera will not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but
>>>>> working just fine for what i need) So I seriously have to get new
>>>>> periperals if want to use vista???
>>>>
>>>> Bingo. The Vista boys and the hardware boys want you to open your
>>>> wallet. A lot.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you must research compatibility of your essential hardware
>>>>>> and software.
>>>>>> Most will probably work, maybe all, but research is essential.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1019B5B1-A857-4FBF-97EC-69FA53A03264@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I really have no feeling towards it one way or the other, but I
>>>>>>> will probably
>>>>>>> end up with Vista on the new PC we buy just because that's what
>>>>>>> it comes with
>>>>>>> it and I'm not savvy enough to try and run 2 OS at the same
>>>>>>> time... All I
>>>>>>> really need to know is whether I'm going to have problems
>>>>>>> re-installing
>>>>>>> periperals, games or software that are more than 5 years old (or
>>>>>>> 10 years
>>>>>>> old). I guess I will need to research each individual item to
>>>>>>> check for
>>>>>>> compatibility issues, huh?
>>>>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> NoStop wrote:
>>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> His point is that along with a P.O.S. toy operating system, he also
>>> likes to
>>> use P.O.S. hardware.
>>>
>>> Cheers.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>
>> So he's using that POS toy os urbuttoo huh?
>> Well good luck having any hardware work on that crap os!
>> Frank<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I just nuked an XP installation and installed Ubuntu. XP's silly BSOD
> said it was a hardware problem and it wouldn't boot into Normal or Safe
> Mode. I wiped XP and installed Ubuntu and Ubuntu had NO problem with the
> hardware and the client, needless to say, was thrilled.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Having those "delusional fantasies" again mr liar, mr troll, mr spammer,
mr bigot...LOL!
Frank

 

Alias wrote:


....as usual, just some desperate bullsh*t lies.
Figures!
Frank

 

Frank wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> NoStop wrote:
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> His point is that along with a P.O.S. toy operating system, he also likes
>> to use P.O.S. hardware.
>>
>> Cheers.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So he's using that POS toy os urbuttoo huh?
> Well good luck having any hardware work on that crap os!
> Frank<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

All my hardware works very well under Ubuntu, thank you very much. That
can't be said for Vista, as we all know.

Cheers.

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):


AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

 

alexB wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> My point is that this printer which is a very nice piece of hardware,
> great looking and compact, standing next to my 5 grand new dell T7400 may
> be purchased by someone who wants to have quality printing and digital
> input.
>
> My point is that it is affordable and it is quality.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
What's "affordable" about needing to run a 5 grand computer just to get
Vista to run at an acceptable speed? Can you chew peanuts and think at the
same time?

Cheers.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OlOidcaIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> alexB wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> A combo: printer + scanner + fax + color photo printer (Dell 968) costs
>>> 99.99, brand new at DELL.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Your point?
>>
>> Alias<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:unjA7FcaIHA.5768@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> mh64 wrote:
>>>>> Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital camera
>>>>> will not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but working
>>>>> just fine for what i need) So I seriously have to get new periperals
>>>>> if want to use vista???
>>>>
>>>> Bingo. The Vista boys and the hardware boys want you to open your
>>>> wallet. A lot.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you must research compatibility of your essential hardware and
>>>>>> software.
>>>>>> Most will probably work, maybe all, but research is essential.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1019B5B1-A857-4FBF-97EC-69FA53A03264@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I really have no feeling towards it one way or the other, but I will
>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>> end up with Vista on the new PC we buy just because that's what it
>>>>>>> comes with
>>>>>>> it and I'm not savvy enough to try and run 2 OS at the same time...
>>>>>>> All I
>>>>>>> really need to know is whether I'm going to have problems
>>>>>>> re-installing
>>>>>>> periperals, games or software that are more than 5 years old (or 10
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> old). I guess I will need to research each individual item to check
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> compatibility issues, huh?
>>>>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):


AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
and type lusrmgr.msc."
^^^^^
I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.

 

NoStop wrote:

--------------------------------------------


All of my hardware works perfectly under Vista and as this entire ng
knows full well, it didn't work at all under that crap you call
urbuttoo...as real POS toy os.
Frank

 

AMEN BROTHER

oops you have no facts to support your story. well it did sound good,
but hey never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

I think you are an IDIOT. A FACT you can NOT disprove.


On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:04:53 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Your ASSUMPTIONS about the ability and needs of the OP are typical for
>you.
>This suits your blind agenda.
>Non technical users succeed with Windows Vista regularly just as they
>have with previous versions of Windows.
>Do not confuse non technical with an inability to learn or adapt.
>The fact you feel you must be a "technical user" may describe your
>own inabilities while saying little about others.
>Many people of various skills from very little to a great deal have
>success where you regularly claim failure.
>That also says much about you.
>
>"all over Vista for compatibility problems"
>And what have the specific product manufacturers said to you when you
>asked them what they are doing about their products compatibility
>issues?
>
>Windows Vista performs well on two older computers of mine, a laptop
>and a desktop.
>A FACT you can NOT disprove.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Yeah pretty much. Trust me Vista looks cool and the rest is down
hill. Stay with XP.

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:36:01 -0800, mh64
<mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital camera will
>not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but working just fine for
>what i need) So I seriously have to get new periperals if want to use
>vista???
>
>"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Yes, you must research compatibility of your essential hardware and
>> software.
>> Most will probably work, maybe all, but research is essential.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>
>>
>>
>> "mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1019B5B1-A857-4FBF-97EC-69FA53A03264@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> >I really have no feeling towards it one way or the other, but I will
>> >probably
>> > end up with Vista on the new PC we buy just because that's what it
>> > comes with
>> > it and I'm not savvy enough to try and run 2 OS at the same time...
>> > All I
>> > really need to know is whether I'm going to have problems
>> > re-installing
>> > periperals, games or software that are more than 5 years old (or 10
>> > years
>> > old). I guess I will need to research each individual item to check
>> > for
>> > compatibility issues, huh? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:54:19 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
<jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Yes, you must research compatibility of your essential hardware and
>software.
>Most will probably work, maybe all, but research is essential.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Not his bubba

 

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:00:16 -0800, Frank <fb@jr.kmo> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Alias wrote:
>
>
>...as usual, just some desperate bullsh*t lies.
>Figures!
>Frank<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Senor Village Idiot weighs in again.

 

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> AMEN BROTHER
>
> oops you have no facts to support your story. well it did sound good,
> but hey never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
>
> I think you are an IDIOT. A FACT you can NOT disprove.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

And what have you got you fukkin idiot...other than your pointed empty
head shoved all the way up your stinking arse, huh?
As*hole POS loser!
Frank

 

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:00:16 -0800, Frank <fb@jr.kmo> wrote:
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>...as usual, just some desperate bullsh*t lies.
>>Figures!
>>Frank<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
>
> Senor Village Idiot weighs in again.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

So you too are getting desperate mrs Queen of all village idiots...LOL!
You're rather stupid aren't you as*hole!
Frank

 

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Yeah pretty much. Trust me Vista looks cool and the rest is down
> hill. Stay with XP.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

How would a fukkin loser like you know you moron.
You don't even use Vista...you queen of idiots!
Frank

 

No, you can stay with Windows XP.
Or dual boot windows XP/Vista.
Or you may need to purchase a new camera and scanner.

Are you sure the camera will not work in Windows Vista?
There is less that needs to be done for an older camera to work in
windows Vista.

Do you have access to a Windows Vista computer some place?
Simply connect the camera and power on and see if you can move the
pictures.

Try the scanner also.
Sometimes when the manufacturer says no, it works anyways.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]



"mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:81AD20D7-186F-493E-A69F-C750136A65D9@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital
> camera will
> not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but working just
> fine for
> what i need) So I seriously have to get new periperals if want to
> use
> vista??? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

You make no sense in your post.
But, most of what you post is either senseless or blind bias lacking
in facts.
It is noted that although there are a few of your posts in this
thread, as is typical of you, you did NOTHING to help the OP with a
solution.
Typical of those driven with a blind agenda.

Windows Vista continues to perform well on two older computers of
mine.
A simple FACT you seem unable to accomplish and can NOT disprove.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]



<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message
news:atfnq3l32lgvui9fc32ptqn9t3nnovj3ff@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:54:19 -0700, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
> Not his bubba <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Very typical of you yet again.
A post attacking those you disagree.
When you are unable to prove what you say, you attack others.

"you have no facts to support your story"
The FACT is my computers perform well with windows Vista.
You can attack me, but you are again unable to disprove the facts.
Read my post again, possibly for the first time.
You have apparently missed much.

Those competent and secure in their position have no need for attacks.
That you seem to regularly attack others while contributing NOTHING to
the issues speaks much of your own insecurities and little of others.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]



<thetruthhurts @homail.com> wrote in message
news:lmfnq3pb1f75q0ph7h202dqnl4i84pqj3g@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> AMEN BROTHER
>
> oops you have no facts to support your story. well it did sound
> good,
> but hey never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
>
> I think you are an IDIOT. A FACT you can NOT disprove. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Now that I think about it, you are probably right about the camera. I was
just calling manufacturers about compatibility and the kodak person didn't
really sound like they knew what they were talking about. What about
software? Are there any issues with older software not working on newer OS?

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:36:01 -0800, mh64
> <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital camera will
> > not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but working just fine for
> > what i need) So I seriously have to get new periperals if want to use
> > vista???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Two points:
>
> 1. In general, older peripherals are often not supported on newer
> operating systems. This is true regardless of what the peripheral is,
> and what operating system you are talking about. If the manufacturer
> of the peripheral is no longer actively selling that particular
> product, he is often reluctant to invest money to write a new driver
> for it. That's a simple economic fact, and again has nothing to do
> with Vista. No vendor ever promises someone buying his peripheral that
> he will write drivers for it for every new operating system that comes
> onto the market.
>
> 2. Regarding your camera, you should not need Vista support for it.
> Worst case, you could buy an inexpensive USB media card reader, and
> use it to transfer your pictures to the Vista computer.
>
> But your choice. If your scanner isn't supported in Vista, you either
> need to get a new scanner or stay with the operating system you
> presently have.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Well most people are not having problems and they generally don't go on
line to find an answer to their problem or to complain about them.
Satisfied users are generally quiet.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit



"mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E052ADD-743A-4E58-9414-88780E9AE765@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every
> 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
> limit
> available computer selection? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:03:00 -0800, mh64
<mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Now that I think about it, you are probably right about the camera. I was
> just calling manufacturers about compatibility and the kodak person didn't
> really sound like they knew what they were talking about. What about
> software? Are there any issues with older software not working on newer OS?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Of course, there are always such issues. There's never a guarantee
that every existing program will work with any new operating system.

If the software you use is old enough, it's likely that some of it
won't work with XP. Many people have had such problems. Sometimes
running in compatibility mode fixes those problems, but some programs
won't run at all.

Check your applications at "Windows Application Compatibility" at


My personal experience has been that, with the exception of two minor
utilities I didn't really need, every program I ran under XP also ran
under Vista, and I did not need compatibility mode for any of them.


<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:36:01 -0800, mh64
> > <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > Well, I have researched and found out my scanner and my digital camera will
> > > not support Vista. (both are probably 5+ years old but working just fine for
> > > what i need) So I seriously have to get new periperals if want to use
> > > vista???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> >
> > Two points:
> >
> > 1. In general, older peripherals are often not supported on newer
> > operating systems. This is true regardless of what the peripheral is,
> > and what operating system you are talking about. If the manufacturer
> > of the peripheral is no longer actively selling that particular
> > product, he is often reluctant to invest money to write a new driver
> > for it. That's a simple economic fact, and again has nothing to do
> > with Vista. No vendor ever promises someone buying his peripheral that
> > he will write drivers for it for every new operating system that comes
> > onto the market.
> >
> > 2. Regarding your camera, you should not need Vista support for it.
> > Worst case, you could buy an inexpensive USB media card reader, and
> > use it to transfer your pictures to the Vista computer.
> >
> > But your choice. If your scanner isn't supported in Vista, you either
> > need to get a new scanner or stay with the operating system you
> > presently have.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup