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Updating the bios

Discussion in 'Processor - CPU' started by 8biosdrive, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. 8biosdrive

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    If your computer is operating normally, should you never update the bios, even if the computer manufacturer suggests updating it? Why does updating the bios seem to be such a risky process?
     
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    It's risky because if it doesn't go right, you can't recover from it easily. You won't be able to boot your computer at all. You'd have to remove and replace the BIOS chip on the board. That said, bad updates are rare.

    If you're going to do a BIOS update, I recommend having your computer on an Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS). Saying this because if power is interrupted during a BIOS update .... well, you're in trouble. If you're doing this with a laptop, make sure the main battery is charged. The battery will act as the UPS.
     
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    BIOS updates are generally meant to provide support for a new piece of hardware that 99.9% of people will never use.

    Never update the bios or any other hardware unless you have a specific need to do so.
     
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    Oh ya, as Tony mentioned, it's risky, VERY risky with no benefit to almost all computers.

    Why do they do it? Good question.

    When you wipe a drive and re-install Windows, Windows updates will install almost all missing hardware drivers. These drivers are given to Microsoft from the hardware manufacturers / assembly companies, and it's a good thing. However, Microsoft also will "update" drivers that are currently installed. That's a big problem, as these driver updates only benefit a tiny minority of computers, while putting the vast majority at risk. That's why one of the most common computer problems is, "Windows did an update and now such and such doesn't work, or the computer doesn't start". That's almost always due to an incompatible driver update.

    Why does Microsoft do it? Good question.
     
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    DEFIANTLY NO :doh:

    BIOS is one of those things that "if it ante broke, don't fix it."
     
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    It's like brain surgery. The BIOS holds the basic information for the hardware. You screw something up and you now have a doorstop.
     
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    Usually though, it's nothing that the end user screwed up, as the procedure in of itself is simple and straightforward. Yet, BAM!, they've got a doorstop to some incompatibility issue.
     
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    Seth Anthony said
    I take it there's no way to update while preventing the driver updates?
     
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    When I follow the first method to disable driver updates in the itechtics.com link above, I see the dialogue box below, which is different from the one in the link (the bottom dialogue box). There is no mention of drivers, so I wonder if this method works differently in my version of Windows 10 (home ed., version 1803, build 17134.648). Perhaps I should try one of the other methods?

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    I'm seeing the same with my W10, 1803. One of the comments said that method didn't work for them. They tried method 2 which did work.
     
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    Method 2 calls for using gpedit.msc, which isn't included in Win 10 Home Edition. So I used Method 3 and made the registry change (after backing it up). Hope that solves the issue with Windows updates. Thanks for the help, and for the link Seth Anthony!
     
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    I should have read the link first. I see that gpedit allows you to make changes in operating system behavior without having to make changes in the registry. How does it do that?
     
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    You can set permissions in it for anything you want in it.Not sure if it does or doesn't change things in the registry or not.I haven't used it very often so my knowledge is limited sorry.I believe it is a safer alternative than making registry changes as it can be undone in gpedit rather easily.
     
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    Thanks. It sounds like it could be very useful. I'll have to look into it.
     

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