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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by aitch, Jun 29, 2009.

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  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:O30grbO%23JHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Chris S." <Chris.Sidener@nocrapverizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:eFryBYO%23JHA.2872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Absolute nonsense!
    >>
    >> Chris<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Isn't that an oxymoron?
    >
    > --
    > Jon<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Actually, you are the oxymoron.
    --

    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
     
    Mike, Jun 29, 2009
    #21
  3. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    It is false. Aside from creating enormous problems ,cleaning the registry does not
    make your computer faster or does it free up space,It is a very dangerous tool in
    the hands of the inexperienced and even occasionally for an expert

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:O%23dXlZO%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:Oh50cOO%23JHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> HOGWASH AND BULL***t!
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > You're entitled to your opinion / expletives but you're wrong.
    >
    > I could cite specific examples of in-built Vista programs that progressively build
    > up superfluous entries in the registry over time, and cause a slowdown , but I'll
    > refrain. I'll leave it as a homework exercise for you to discover, should your
    > humility ever get the better of you.
    >
    > Also since it wouldn't allow to learn the more general and important lesson, which
    > is that Registry Cleaners are NOT inherently evil. The name of a program doesn't
    > make it good or evil. A program can be written well or badly. It can address and
    > solve particular bugs or issues, or not
    >
    > Which should really be a self-evident platitude. Anyone who has ever strung
    > together a simple script, program or batch file, will be well aware of this.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Jon
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Peter Foldes, Jun 29, 2009
    #22
  4. Vista Succubus Hunter

    Vista Succubus Hunter Guest

    aitch wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
    > expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
    > The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
    >
    > All views would be welcomed<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Registry cleaners are snake-oil.
     
    Vista Succubus Hunter, Jun 29, 2009
    #23
  5. Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:O%23dXlZO%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:Oh50cOO%23JHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> HOGWASH AND BULL***t!
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > You're entitled to your opinion / expletives but you're wrong.
    >
    > I could cite specific examples of in-built Vista programs that
    > progressively build up superfluous entries in the registry over time, and
    > cause a slowdown , but I'll refrain. I'll leave it as a homework exercise
    > for you to discover, should your humility ever get the better of you.
    >
    > Also since it wouldn't allow to learn the more general and important
    > lesson, which is that Registry Cleaners are NOT inherently evil. The name
    > of a program doesn't make it good or evil. A program can be written well
    > or badly. It can address and solve particular bugs or issues, or not
    >
    > Which should really be a self-evident platitude. Anyone who has ever
    > strung together a simple script, program or batch file, will be well aware
    > of this.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Jon
    >
    >
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Why refrain from citing examples?

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Jun 29, 2009
    #24
  6. Jon

    Jon Guest

    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:OLyA3OP%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Why refrain from citing examples?
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    You'll all need to beg a bit louder first.

    --
    Jon
     
    Jon, Jun 29, 2009
    #25
  7. DrTeeth

    DrTeeth Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:17:03 -0400, just as I was about to take a
    herb, "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> disturbed
    my reverie and wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > CCleaner is the only program that I apply to any computer I
    >repair.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I started avoiding that program when they included the ability to
    clean out the prefetch folder - another fable that is hogwash on
    steroids.
    --

    Cheers,

    DrT

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    DrTeeth, Jun 29, 2009
    #26
  8. DrTeeth

    DrTeeth Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:47:41 +0100, just as I was about to take a
    herb, "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> disturbed my reverie
    and wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Even pigs benefit from a bath. Think about it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    But they get dirty again very quickly. Seriously, these reg cleaners
    clean out so little, the registry does not reduce in size
    significantly after...'compacting' before and after cleaning.
    --

    Cheers,

    DrT

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    DrTeeth, Jun 29, 2009
    #27
  9. DrTeeth

    DrTeeth Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:56:36 -0400, just as I was about to take a
    herb, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> disturbed my reverie and
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Why refrain from citing examples?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I'm sure if he had any, he'd be happy to educate us.
    --

    Cheers,

    DrT

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    DrTeeth, Jun 29, 2009
    #28
  10. DrTeeth

    DrTeeth Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:24:55 +0100, just as I was about to take a
    herb, "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> disturbed my reverie
    and wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Isn't that an oxymoron?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Not at all.
    --

    Cheers,

    DrT

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    DrTeeth, Jun 29, 2009
    #29
  11. Richard Urban

    Richard Urban Guest

    Don't go away mad - just go away!

    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:Okr7%23ZP%23JHA.2872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
    > news:OLyA3OP%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> Why refrain from citing examples?
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > You'll all need to beg a bit louder first.
    >
    > --
    > Jon
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Richard Urban, Jun 29, 2009
    #30
  12. DrTeeth

    DrTeeth Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:49:02 -0700, just as I was about to take a
    herb, aitch <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> disturbed my reverie
    and wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >All views would be welcomed<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Don't do it. You will get a warn feeling inside by seeing the amount
    'cleaned', but it won't help at all. It is the VERY LAST thing I try
    before reinstalling.

    One registry cleaner I used in the past fecked up Encarta 2009 and I
    had to repair it.
    --

    Cheers,

    DrT

    ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    ** out of someone who richly deserves it.
     
    DrTeeth, Jun 29, 2009
    #31
  13. Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:Okr7%23ZP%23JHA.2872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
    > news:OLyA3OP%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> Why refrain from citing examples?
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > You'll all need to beg a bit louder first.
    >
    > --
    > Jon
    >
    >
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    LOL..

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Jun 29, 2009
    #32
  14. Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    "DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
    news:129i451j3792fas6l3fi0erf59sjek2fqj@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:56:36 -0400, just as I was about to take a
    > herb, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> disturbed my reverie and
    > wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>Why refrain from citing examples?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > I'm sure if he had any, he'd be happy to educate us.
    > --
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > DrT
    >
    > ** Stress - the condition brought about by having to
    > ** resist the temptation to beat the living daylights
    > ** out of someone who richly deserves it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    I have endeavored to search for anything good about registry cleaners, and
    have yet to locate any other than the sales blurb put out by the authors of
    said utilities..

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Jun 29, 2009
    #33
  15. Jon

    Jon Guest

    "DrTeeth" <no-email@tardis.com> wrote in message
    news:129i451j3792fas6l3fi0erf59sjek2fqj@4ax.com...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I'm sure if he had any, he'd be happy to educate us.
    > -- <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Ordinarily yes, DrTeeth.

    But in this thread, unfortunately, I get the sneaky suspicion that it would
    be a case of pearls to pigs / hogs...unwashed ones as well.

    Pearls to pigs DrTeeth, pearls to pigs .......

    --
    Jon
     
    Jon, Jun 29, 2009
    #34
  16. Jon

    Jon Guest

    "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eiCItkP%23JHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> You'll all need to beg a bit louder first.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Don't go away mad - just go away!
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Nah, that didn't do it for me. Try a little harder.

    --
    Jon
     
    Jon, Jun 29, 2009
    #35
  17. Oren

    Oren Guest

    On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:16:26 +0100, "Jon"
    <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
    >news:OLyA3OP%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> Why refrain from citing examples?
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    >You'll all need to beg a bit louder first.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Not an answer for the question.
     
    Oren, Jun 29, 2009
    #36
  18. kavita

    kavita Guest

    kavita, Jun 29, 2009
    #37
  19. the wharf rat

    the wharf rat Guest

    In article <uLJ5muP#JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
    Jon <qwerty9873@hotmail.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >
    >Pearls to pigs DrTeeth, pearls to pigs .......<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Stop swhining, you crybaby.
     
    the wharf rat, Jun 29, 2009
    #38
  20. Vlad-the-Impaler

    Vlad-the-Impaler Guest

    "Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
    news:%23%23sdAKO%23JHA.4944@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
    >> expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
    >> The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
    >>
    >> All views would be welcomed<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > It's not ony desirable to clean up the registry with Vista, it's
    > essential.
    >
    > Otherwise your experience of the OS will be greatly reduced within a few
    > months. You'll have certain applications mysteriously slowing, and your
    > overall experience of the OS will be greatly reduced. Often imperceptibly,
    > since the changes are generally incremental.
    >
    > A regular and targetted cleanout will keep the system speeding along.
    >
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    At one time...you had to hunt thru the registry to totally remove
    NAV...whether that is still true, I don't know.
    I use CC, but I review every key that it is gonna delete...most I can tell
    if it is good to remove.
    But, unless you are familiar with the structure of the registry, I wouldn't
    recommend a general cleaner.

    If you have a certain uninstalled program you want to remove traces
    of...just F3 thru the registry and delete those keys.
    Do a registry backup first.

    I clean my registry, yet do it more out of old habits than any speed gain.
    Can't say I've ever noticed a difference.
     
    Vlad-the-Impaler, Jun 29, 2009
    #39
  21. Richard G. Harper

    Richard G. Harper Guest

    Personally, I equate the indifferent use of a "registry cleaner" on the same
    level as self-administered cranial surgery. There are specific times and
    reasons that one would remove specific Registry data but to use a product
    simply to "clean" the Registry in the hopes of improving performance is to
    invite disaster.

    "aitch" <aitch372@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:8972D21A-AAB8-441F-A805-A6165F50EF3F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > A friend has recommended that I clean up my registry. He admits he is no
    > expert so I would appreciate other comments before I commit myself.
    > The software I would use would be C Cleaner.
    >
    > All views would be welcomed <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Richard G. Harper, Jun 29, 2009
    #40
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