Re: Where do files go when you delete them over a (wireless) network?

Mike Brannigan wrote:
> "Opinicus" <gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.invalid> wrote in message
> newsadq151dlrvg2ir5iqc01ni4hq1npqu4lk@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:29:58 +1000, Jane C
> <janecolman@iinet.net.au.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Files deleted over the network - wired or wireless - are immediately
>> deleted without ever going to a recycle bin. So, be very careful when
>> deleting as once they're gone, they're gone.
>
> In other words they go "poof".
>
> Thanks for the confirmation everyone. I'm just glad I discovered this
> nasty little feature pottering around and not while I was doing
> something serious...

Well, it seems to be a "User" thing. I always have to consciously select
"Delete" and then answer an "Are you sure you want to permanently delete
this item" question. If I say yes it is my fault, not a "Nasty little
feature", it simply is the operating system doing what I asked it to do?

 

Opinicus wrote:
> On the desktop side: WinXP Home, all updates etc in place
> On the laptop side: WinVista Home Premium, all updates etc in place
>
> I have a wireless ADSL router connected by cable to the desktop
> machine. The laptop connects to the router via a wireless
> connection. The laptop has full access to everything on the desktop
> machine. The desktop machine has limited access only to certain
> folders on the laptop because that's the way Vista is.
>
> I have things set up so that from the laptop (Vista) machine I can
> open, run, copy, move, and delete files on the desktop (XP) machine.
>
> The recycle bins on both machines work properly. If I delete files
> on the XP side they go to the XP recycle bin and if I delete files
> on the Vista side they go to the Vista recycle bin.
>
> I noticed yesterday however that when I delete XP-side files from
> the Vista side, they aren't sent to the recycle bins on either
> machine. This seems very strange. Is it by design? Is there a
> setting I need to set to have such files sent to a recycle bin?
>
> Where do files go when you delete them over a (wireless) network?

Jane C wrote:
> Files deleted over the network - wired or wireless - are immediately
> deleted without ever going to a recycle bin. So, be very careful
> when deleting as once they're gone, they're gone.

Opinicus wrote:
> In other words they go "poof".
>
> Thanks for the confirmation everyone. I'm just glad I discovered
> this nasty little feature pottering around and not while I was doing
> something serious...

Mike Brannigan wrote:
> It is hardly a "nasty little feature" as it has existed in Windows
> since the very first versions that had networking functionality,
> and right the way through the Windows 9x family and the Windows NT
> based families (including 2000, XP and Vista) right up to today and
> beyond to Windows 7.
> If this really is a concern for you there are "network recycle bin
> or Recovery Bin (tm)" products available from third parties such as
> http://www.undelete.com/undelete/home/undelete.aspx and many others.

Charlie Tame wrote:
> Well, it seems to be a "User" thing. I always have to consciously
> select "Delete" and then answer an "Are you sure you want to
> permanently delete this item" question. If I say yes it is my
> fault, not a "Nasty little feature", it simply is the operating
> system doing what I asked it to do?

Check the groups you post to - know your audience. ;-)

In Windows XP - somehow selecting to delete a file on a network share brings
up no mention of the word permanent (shift or no shift key press.)

In Windows Vista - somehow selecting to delete a file on a network share
always mentions the word permanent (shift or no shift key press.)

That is not to say there are not settings you can use to turn off the
confirmation completely...

To prevent delete confirmation messages from appearing (Windows XP/Vista)

1. On the desktop, right-click Recycle Bin, and then click Properties.
2. Clear the Display delete confirmation dialog check box.

But you do so at your own peril.

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