Re: MVP Question

With your inexperience and lack of knowledge you should not be posting on
topics you know nothing about. The only official Microsoft MVP website is
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ any other one including www.mvps.org is
not so get your facts right before you come here spreading lies.


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"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:u$wX1pIzJHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Sonny Wortzik" <SonnyWortzik@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:0d5tv4tbj725lg1ieguv30slv2109ib2e9@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 4 May 2009 16:47:02 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is this "person" a real MVP (The Real Truth http://pcbutts1) ?
>>>
>>> NO.
>>
>> Not under another name ? (As claimed)
>
> In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person the MVP
> program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain name
> obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
> site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
> attittude toward others.
>
> It is of the opinion that David Lipman's program is "crap" - and this is
> probably the only reason it hasn't stolen it.
>

 

Marianne wrote:
> "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:e1icXTQzJHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>>> Another UNKNOWN poseur...
>>>
>>> Not worth a bucket of warm spit.
>>
>> You are right, but ... you are taking the toll-bait and allowing yourself
>> to be sucked down to their level. Why bother unless it's some sort of
>> entertainment value to you.
>
> Two peas in a pod! No one could have put together a bigger pair of
> egotistical morons than the two of you. Twaynie aka "loose pop rivets"
> and
> the perennial troll D. Spencer Hines! You know you're in dumb country
> when
> Twayne comes to your defense! What a fine pair of dumb trolls!
>
> M

ROFL!!

 

What makes you think any name given is real for that matter.


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"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnot.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:eNKU%23eOzJHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> Precisely...
>>
>> I wouldn't trust anyone who won't use his or her FULL name on USENET
>> either.
>
> Nonsense! Even if you did have their FULL name what makes you think that
> they would be more trustworthy? Would you actually do background checks
> on persons to make sure that they can be trusted? The Usenet is what it
> is, take anything on it as you please and want and leave the rest to
> abandon. If you think knowing someone by name makes them trustworthy I
> would like to introduce you to Bernie Madoff...
>
> John

 

Now pull the other one, Paddy!

The Real Truth [MS MVP] wrote:
> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and
> because
> you cannot find out you assume I am not.
>
>
>
> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
> news:eDf$oxMzJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person the
>>> MVP program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain name
>>> obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
>>> site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
>>> attittude toward others.
>>>
>>
>> The MVPs and MS do know that he is *not* a MVP.

 

Now, now, Patrick (or is it Patricia?)...Everyone--except you--knows
what you are and what you are not.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

The Real Truth [MS MVP] wrote:
> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and
> because you cannot find out you assume I am not.
>
>

 

I posted for years without letting anyone know I was an MVP because I posted
as pcbutts1. I started using my MVP status because of the few Troll MVP's
who's head started to swell up in these groups(PA Bear) and MS does nothing
about it.


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"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message
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> Bob,
>
> I have never understood why some folks don't want their MVP status
> known--maybe it is job related (works for a MS competitor); however, I
> suspect that these same folks never make a claim in the newsgroups that
> they are an MVP.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ron Badour
> MS MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:enP3QJKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I asked a similar question several months ago. The responses revealed the
>>proverbial can of worms.
>>
>> Barring forgeries, you can be reasonably sure that if a person is listed
>> on the website, then that person is an MVP.
>>
>> However, the website at mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>> only provides details of those MVPs that want to share their information
>> publicly.
>>
>> As far as I am aware, there is no complete listing of current MVPs
>> available to the public. Unfortunately, not all MVPs choose to share
>> their information publicly - so even if a particular name does not appear
>> on the listing, that person might still be an MVP.
>>
>> From a personal viewpoint, that is unfortunate, because it is far too
>> easy for imposters to make false claims. Although I can appreciate why
>> an individual might not want to publish any of his/her biographical
>> details, it is difficult to understand why any contributor to a public
>> newsgroup who claims to be an MVP might be unwilling to appear in a
>> complete list of names.
>>
>> After all, I would be reluctant to accept advice or receive treatment
>> from a person who claims to be a medical practitioner or other
>> consultant, but is not listed by a relevant professional body. Why
>> should advice from an MVP be any different?
>>
>>
>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:#Q7fZ7IzJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>Is this "person" a real MVP (The Real Truth http://pcbutts1) ?
>>>> NO.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can find a list of all current MVPs at Microsoft's MVP site:
>>>
>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>>
>>> Most of the Vista MVPs are under the "Windows Desktop Experience"
>>> category, I think.
>>>
>>> The MVP award lasts for 12 months. If someone continues to get selected,
>>> they could remain an MVP for years on end. But if you drop your MVP, you
>>> disappear off the list. So former MVPs are not listed.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> (former MVP
>>> --
>>> amclar at optusnet dot com dot au
>>>
>>>
>
>

 

There is not and never has been any infected downloads on my site, get your
facts right liar.


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"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.24689e9a31e004f7989bac@us.news.astraweb.com...
>> In article <uJNbBpKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com says...
>>> You'd have to wonder about any professional who doesn't want to stand
>>> publically identified and accountable.
>>>
>>
>> And you would also have to wonder how a person claiming to be an MVP
>> could post filthy comments, post links to Pornographic materials that
>> they claim to have created, impersonate other members of the
>> community...
>>
>>
>
> And have downloads on their site containing viruses.....
>
> --
> Asking a question?
> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
> your OS, Service Pack level
> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)

 

That's a bunch of BS. Take me for example you think I am not when I am. Why
would you blatantly lie like that.

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"Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news:OY%23xjuLzJHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If a MVP doesn't wish to have any listing for any reason, it is a privacy
> thing that MS must honor. There are cases where that is so, to protect the
> MVP.
>
> And, if a known MVP or several known MVPs tell you someone is *not* a MVP,
> you can take it to the bank.
>
> As MVPs, we do in fact, know.
>
> Tom
> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:B9664613-6E86-4858-AA30-410B85430715@microsoft.com...
> :
> :
> : "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> : news:uJNbBpKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> : > "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote ...
> : >> However, the website at
> : >> mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx only provides
> : >> details of those MVPs that want to share their information
> : >> publicly.
> : >
> : > Yes, that's right.
> : >
> : > The MVP programme is far from perfect. But in my experience,
> : > most genuine MVPs are willing - and indeed, greatly desire - to
> : > have their details openly published.
> : > [snipped]
> :
> : I wish that were so. However, when I scanned through recent
> : contributions to this newsgroup, I quickly found one from a
> : regular contributor who describes himself as "MS-MVP [Mail]".
> :
> : Based upon the quality of his contributions, I have little doubt
> : that the gentleman is an MVP. However, a search against his name
> : at https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx reports
> : "No results were found for your search criteria".
> :
> : Surely, it should be possible to check a name against the
> : definitive list of MVPs (even if an individual MVP does not want
> : to disclose his biographical or other details). Furthermore, I
> : would have no objection to the use of a pseudonym, if an MVP has
> : a genuine reason for anonymity.
> :
> : Incidentally, I use Windows Live Mail as my Newsreader client
> : program. WLMail includes some Community Features, which allow
> : for a special icon to appear against contributions by MVPs.
> : However, very few postings bear the icon.
> :
>
>

 

Now look, you've gone and caught something nasty. It was only a matter of
time before a thread with "MVP" in the title was bound to attract the source
of all the misery...


==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.


"Leonard Grey" <l.grey@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Now, now, Patrick (or is it Patricia?)...Everyone--except you--knows what
> you are and what you are not.
> ---
> Leonard Grey
> Errare humanum est
>
> The Real Truth [MS MVP] wrote:
>> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and
>> because you cannot find out you assume I am not.
>>

 

That is why no one knows my real name which is searchable and public. That
fact alone pisses off the trolls.

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"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23NU%23lwMzJHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:B9664613-6E86-4858-AA30-410B85430715@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uJNbBpKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote ...
>>>> However, the website at mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>>> only provides details of those MVPs that want to share their
>>>> information publicly.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's right.
>>>
>>> The MVP programme is far from perfect. But in my experience, most
>>> genuine MVPs are willing - and indeed, greatly desire - to have their
>>> details openly published.
>>> [snipped]
>>
>> I wish that were so. However, when I scanned through recent
>> contributions to this newsgroup, I quickly found one from a regular
>> contributor who describes himself as "MS-MVP [Mail]".
>>
>> Based upon the quality of his contributions, I have little doubt that the
>> gentleman is an MVP. However, a search against his name at
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx reports "No
>> results were found for your search criteria".
>>
>> Surely, it should be possible to check a name against the definitive list
>> of MVPs (even if an individual MVP does not want to disclose his
>> biographical or other details). Furthermore, I would have no objection
>> to the use of a pseudonym, if an MVP has a genuine reason for anonymity.
>>
>> Incidentally, I use Windows Live Mail as my Newsreader client program.
>> WLMail includes some Community Features, which allow for a special icon
>> to appear against contributions by MVPs. However, very few postings bear
>> the icon.
>
>
> Would that be me, Bob? MS gives us only two choices. Remain anonymous, or
> have all your personal info made public. I have expressed my opinion in
> the past to MS that, IMO there should be an MS certified list of MVPs that
> the public can see. IOW, a list of names of all MVPs without revealing
> personal info if they do not want it published. Right now, it's all or
> nothing.
>
> I don't want to sound offensive, but I don't really want to share all the
> information in my personal profile with the rest of the world. It is
> really no ones business. But I /do/ want the public to be assured that I
> am not an impostor.
> --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>

 

Pot, kettle, black, etc.

The Real Truth [MS MVP] wrote:
> With your inexperience and lack of knowledge you should not be posting on
> topics you know nothing about. The only official Microsoft MVP website is
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ any other one including www.mvps.org is
> not so get your facts right before you come here spreading lies.
>
>
>
> "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
> news:eeFVTvMzJHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:u$wX1pIzJHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Sonny Wortzik" <SonnyWortzik@invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:0d5tv4tbj725lg1ieguv30slv2109ib2e9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 4 May 2009 16:47:02 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is this "person" a real MVP (The Real Truth http://pcbutts1) ?
>>>>
>>>> NO.
>>>
>>> Not under another name ? (As claimed)
>>
>> In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person the
>> MVP
>> program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain name
>> obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
>> site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
>> attittude toward others.
>>
>> It is of the opinion that David Lipman's program is "crap" - and this is
>> probably the only reason it hasn't stolen it.

 

Take your meds and go to bed, Chris.

The Real Truth [MS MVP] wrote:
> I posted for years without letting anyone know I was an MVP because I
> posted
> as pcbutts1. I started using my MVP status because of the few Troll MVP's
> who's head started to swell up in these groups(PA Bear) and MS does
> nothing
> about it.
>
>
>
> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message
> news:uU7abhKzJHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Bob,
>>
>> I have never understood why some folks don't want their MVP status
>> known--maybe it is job related (works for a MS competitor); however, I
>> suspect that these same folks never make a claim in the newsgroups that
>> they are an MVP.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Ron Badour
>> MS MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:enP3QJKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I asked a similar question several months ago. The responses revealed
>>> the
>>> proverbial can of worms.
>>>
>>> Barring forgeries, you can be reasonably sure that if a person is listed
>>> on the website, then that person is an MVP.
>>>
>>> However, the website at mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>> only provides details of those MVPs that want to share their information
>>> publicly.
>>>
>>> As far as I am aware, there is no complete listing of current MVPs
>>> available to the public. Unfortunately, not all MVPs choose to share
>>> their information publicly - so even if a particular name does not
>>> appear
>>> on the listing, that person might still be an MVP.
>>>
>>> From a personal viewpoint, that is unfortunate, because it is far too
>>> easy for imposters to make false claims. Although I can appreciate why
>>> an individual might not want to publish any of his/her biographical
>>> details, it is difficult to understand why any contributor to a public
>>> newsgroup who claims to be an MVP might be unwilling to appear in a
>>> complete list of names.
>>>
>>> After all, I would be reluctant to accept advice or receive treatment
>>> from a person who claims to be a medical practitioner or other
>>> consultant, but is not listed by a relevant professional body. Why
>>> should advice from an MVP be any different?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#Q7fZ7IzJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this "person" a real MVP (The Real Truth http://pcbutts1) ?
>>>>> NO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can find a list of all current MVPs at Microsoft's MVP site:
>>>>
>>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Vista MVPs are under the "Windows Desktop Experience"
>>>> category, I think.
>>>>
>>>> The MVP award lasts for 12 months. If someone continues to get
>>>> selected,
>>>> they could remain an MVP for years on end. But if you drop your MVP,
>>>> you
>>>> disappear off the list. So former MVPs are not listed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>> (former MVP
>>>> --
>>>> amclar at optusnet dot com dot au

 

Look .....the advice I give out works. My record for fixing and not breaking
computer cannot be touched. So I have an attitude big deal, you don't like
kill file me. I am still waiting for someone to post a link where I broke
someone's computer.


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"Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OVAyO5NzJHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:#NU#lwMzJHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:B9664613-6E86-4858-AA30-410B85430715@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uJNbBpKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote ...
>>>>> However, the website at mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>>>> only provides details of those MVPs that want to share their
>>>>> information publicly.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's right.
>>>>
>>>> The MVP programme is far from perfect. But in my experience, most
>>>> genuine MVPs are willing - and indeed, greatly desire - to have their
>>>> details openly published.
>>>> [snipped]
>>>
>>> I wish that were so. However, when I scanned through recent
>>> contributions to this newsgroup, I quickly found one from a regular
>>> contributor who describes himself as "MS-MVP [Mail]".
>>>
>>> Based upon the quality of his contributions, I have little doubt that
>>> the gentleman is an MVP. However, a search against his name at
>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx reports "No
>>> results were found for your search criteria".
>>>
>>> Surely, it should be possible to check a name against the definitive
>>> list of MVPs (even if an individual MVP does not want to disclose his
>>> biographical or other details). Furthermore, I would have no objection
>>> to the use of a pseudonym, if an MVP has a genuine reason for anonymity.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, I use Windows Live Mail as my Newsreader client program.
>>> WLMail includes some Community Features, which allow for a special icon
>>> to appear against contributions by MVPs. However, very few postings bear
>>> the icon.
>>
>>
>> Would that be me, Bob? MS gives us only two choices. Remain anonymous, or
>> have all your personal info made public. I have expressed my opinion in
>> the past to MS that, IMO there should be an MS certified list of MVPs
>> that the public can see. IOW, a list of names of all MVPs without
>> revealing personal info if they do not want it published. Right now, it's
>> all or nothing.
>>
>> I don't want to sound offensive, but I don't really want to share all the
>> information in my personal profile with the rest of the world. It is
>> really no ones business. But I /do/ want the public to be assured that I
>> am not an impostor.
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>
> Bruce
>
> I hope you will accept my assurance that I was not suggesting you might be
> an imposter. On the contrary, I have never doubted your right to use the
> MVP designation. Perhaps I could also add that I respect your absolute
> right to privacy.
>
> However, I do have a problem with the MS attitude, which is less than
> helpful. That is the real issue, because newsgroup users really should
> have access to a definitive list of all MVPs. That would go a long way to
> discouraging spurious claims from the likes of PCB.

 

On Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:03 -0700, "The Real Truth [MS MVP]"
<trt@void.com> wrote:

> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and because
> you cannot find out you assume I am not.


Complete nonsense! Microsoft has confirmed to many of us that you are
not an MVP, and if you were, they could tell us. Moreover, if you were
an MVP, you would be able to, and would, give us some proof. Despite
all the requests for proof you've been asked for, you have
consistently refused to provide any of us with a shred of evidence
that you are an MVP.

The result is very clear to all of us here. Despite your inability to
fool anybody, you continue to try to fool everybody and are not an
MVP.

If you disagree with me, by all means prove that I am wrong. Give us
some evidence that you are an MVP. For example, tell us in what
technical area you are an MVP and tell us the name of your lead.

So, for example, I'm a Windows Desktop Experience MVP. Are you also a
Windows Desktop Experience MVP? If so, who is your lead? If not, tell
us what your technical area is, and who your lead is.





> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
> news:eDf$oxMzJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >
> > : In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person the
> > : MVP program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain name
> > : obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
> > : site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
> > : attittude toward others.
> > :
> >
> > The MVPs and MS do know that he is *not* a MVP.
> >
> >

 

In article <evMfN7PzJHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
panther@excelsior.net says...
> Twaddle...
>
> WHY are these little pogues so afraid of being IDENTIFIED?
>

If you have no issues with being "Identified" then why not post your
home address, your phone number, and possibly your other personal
information?

Most of us have a Usenet Identity, it's almost always a long history and
can be tracked and followed, even validated by headers and other such
things. There is no reason to attach a face to any part of the Usenet
identity as it doesn't make it any more or less valid.

Suggesting that a "real" name or some other personal trait makes a
user/post more valid is a sign of talking to a person that has never
worked with security in any capacity.

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In article <k6LLl.28582$yr3.13137@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, trt@void.com
says...
> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and because
> you cannot find out you assume I am not.
>

Wrong, real MVP's don't act like you do, don't impersonate other MVP's,
don't create pornographic filth and then post links to it in MS groups
and other groups....

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In article <UELLl.28589$yr3.25378@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>, trt@void.com
says...
> My record for fixing and not breaking
> computer cannot be touched.
>

You mean your record for pirating others tools and then editing the
credits so that they "appear" to be yours, have a great record and can't
be touched - why is it that markers inserted in the tools you copy
MONTHS before show up in your tools where they were not before?

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MS has confirmed that nobody by the name of pcbutts1, Chris butts, or the
real truth is an MVP. Give them my real name and they still won't tell you
because they respect my privacy. You all blew it with all the inquires into
me and the made up name you have given me that MS will not disclose it to
anyone.


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*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:hv1vv4hr5fjk5ug1eb825534ql47h0mlgq@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:03 -0700, "The Real Truth [MS MVP]"
> <trt@void.com> wrote:
>
>> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and
>> because
>> you cannot find out you assume I am not.
>
>
> Complete nonsense! Microsoft has confirmed to many of us that you are
> not an MVP, and if you were, they could tell us. Moreover, if you were
> an MVP, you would be able to, and would, give us some proof. Despite
> all the requests for proof you've been asked for, you have
> consistently refused to provide any of us with a shred of evidence
> that you are an MVP.
>
> The result is very clear to all of us here. Despite your inability to
> fool anybody, you continue to try to fool everybody and are not an
> MVP.
>
> If you disagree with me, by all means prove that I am wrong. Give us
> some evidence that you are an MVP. For example, tell us in what
> technical area you are an MVP and tell us the name of your lead.
>
> So, for example, I'm a Windows Desktop Experience MVP. Are you also a
> Windows Desktop Experience MVP? If so, who is your lead? If not, tell
> us what your technical area is, and who your lead is.
>
>
>
>
>
>> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eDf$oxMzJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > : In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person
>> > the
>> > : MVP program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain
>> > name
>> > : obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
>> > : site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
>> > : attittude toward others.
>> > :
>> >
>> > The MVPs and MS do know that he is *not* a MVP.
>> >
>> >

 

Prove it or SHUT UP! It's easy to prove without divulging your name or
private information.

Some time ago a "real" MVP told us that if you logon to the private
Microsoft MVP support site and make a post to the group via the web
interface that an MVP logo would appear by your name on your post. Not many
MVPs use the web interface but we see the MVP logo from the few that do post
via the web. Surely if you are an MVP you should be able to figure out how
to logon to the private site and make a post via the web interface. Just
post a reply to this post and be done with it!

You could put this to rest in less than two minutes and be done with it once
and for all, others would have no choice but to stop challenging you! For
once you could tell others to SHUT UP and be smug at the same time. But I
doubt that you will do this because you simply crave attention so you like
the fuss others make about your use of the MVP title... and of course you
aren't a real MVP so you cannot logon to the private MVP site to make the
simple little post. So just STFU!

M

"The Real Truth [MS MVP]" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
news:AlLLl.28585$yr3.1295@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>I posted for years without letting anyone know I was an MVP because I
>posted as pcbutts1. I started using my MVP status because of the few Troll
>MVP's who's head started to swell up in these groups(PA Bear) and MS does
>nothing about it.
>
>
> --
> The Real Truth http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/
> *WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
> They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not
> waste your time.
> David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.
>
>
>
>
> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddressBuddy.com> wrote in message
> news:uU7abhKzJHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Bob,
>>
>> I have never understood why some folks don't want their MVP status
>> known--maybe it is job related (works for a MS competitor); however, I
>> suspect that these same folks never make a claim in the newsgroups that
>> they are an MVP.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Ron Badour
>> MS MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "Bob Lucas" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:enP3QJKzJHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I asked a similar question several months ago. The responses revealed
>>>the proverbial can of worms.
>>>
>>> Barring forgeries, you can be reasonably sure that if a person is listed
>>> on the website, then that person is an MVP.
>>>
>>> However, the website at mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>> only provides details of those MVPs that want to share their information
>>> publicly.
>>>
>>> As far as I am aware, there is no complete listing of current MVPs
>>> available to the public. Unfortunately, not all MVPs choose to share
>>> their information publicly - so even if a particular name does not
>>> appear on the listing, that person might still be an MVP.
>>>
>>> From a personal viewpoint, that is unfortunate, because it is far too
>>> easy for imposters to make false claims. Although I can appreciate why
>>> an individual might not want to publish any of his/her biographical
>>> details, it is difficult to understand why any contributor to a public
>>> newsgroup who claims to be an MVP might be unwilling to appear in a
>>> complete list of names.
>>>
>>> After all, I would be reluctant to accept advice or receive treatment
>>> from a person who claims to be a medical practitioner or other
>>> consultant, but is not listed by a relevant professional body. Why
>>> should advice from an MVP be any different?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andrew McLaren" <andrew.mclaren@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#Q7fZ7IzJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>Is this "person" a real MVP (The Real Truth http://pcbutts1) ?
>>>>> NO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can find a list of all current MVPs at Microsoft's MVP site:
>>>>
>>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Vista MVPs are under the "Windows Desktop Experience"
>>>> category, I think.
>>>>
>>>> The MVP award lasts for 12 months. If someone continues to get
>>>> selected, they could remain an MVP for years on end. But if you drop
>>>> your MVP, you disappear off the list. So former MVPs are not listed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>> (former MVP
>>>> --
>>>> amclar at optusnet dot com dot au
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

 

On Mon, 4 May 2009 18:06:49 -0700, "The Real Truth [MS MVP]"
<trt@void.com> wrote:

> MS has confirmed that nobody by the name of pcbutts1, Chris butts, or the
> real truth is an MVP. Give them my real name and they still won't tell you
> because they respect my privacy. You all blew it with all the inquires into
> me and the made up name you have given me that MS will not disclose it to
> anyone.


Once again, you have ignored the request for information to prove what
you say you are. I'll repeat my requests quoted below:

"If you disagree with me, by all means prove that I am wrong. Give us
some evidence that you are an MVP. For example, tell us in what
technical area you are an MVP and tell us the name of your lead."

"So, for example, I'm a Windows Desktop Experience MVP. Are you also a
Windows Desktop Experience MVP? If so, who is your lead? If not, tell
us what your technical area is, and who your lead is."

If you are not willing to provide the asked-for information, it's just
another example of your fakery. You are clearly *not* an MVP if you
refuse to provide any evidence at all that you are.


> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:hv1vv4hr5fjk5ug1eb825534ql47h0mlgq@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 4 May 2009 16:45:03 -0700, "The Real Truth [MS MVP]"
> > <trt@void.com> wrote:
> >
> >> WRONG! MS does know that I am a real MVP, the rest of you do not and
> >> because
> >> you cannot find out you assume I am not.
> >
> >
> > Complete nonsense! Microsoft has confirmed to many of us that you are
> > not an MVP, and if you were, they could tell us. Moreover, if you were
> > an MVP, you would be able to, and would, give us some proof. Despite
> > all the requests for proof you've been asked for, you have
> > consistently refused to provide any of us with a shred of evidence
> > that you are an MVP.
> >
> > The result is very clear to all of us here. Despite your inability to
> > fool anybody, you continue to try to fool everybody and are not an
> > MVP.
> >
> > If you disagree with me, by all means prove that I am wrong. Give us
> > some evidence that you are an MVP. For example, tell us in what
> > technical area you are an MVP and tell us the name of your lead.
> >
> > So, for example, I'm a Windows Desktop Experience MVP. Are you also a
> > Windows Desktop Experience MVP? If so, who is your lead? If not, tell
> > us what your technical area is, and who your lead is.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eDf$oxMzJHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > : In my opinion, it doesn't even come close to the caliber of person
> >> > the
> >> > : MVP program hopes to attract. Take for instance its use of a domain
> >> > name
> >> > : obviously chosen to trick people into believing it is an official MVP
> >> > : site. Forget the "badge", just look at its posting history and bad
> >> > : attittude toward others.
> >> > :
> >> >
> >> > The MVPs and MS do know that he is *not* a MVP.
> >> >
> >> >

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