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Mystery continues with Microsoft's unidentified patch KB 3103709

Discussion in 'Windows 10 Information and Alerts' started by Rich M, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. Rich M

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    Mystery continues with Microsoft's unidentified patch KB 3103709
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    One week after the patch appeared, KB 3103709 still has no description and apparently only appears on Windows 8.1 system


    • InfoWorld | Mar 22, 2016

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      Last Tuesday, Microsoft dropped an enormous number of seemingly innocuous patches -- seven for .Net running on Windows Embedded, plus 40 separate nonsecurity patches. There's a full list on AskWoody.com.

      The next day poster Opskito complained that he was seeing an update on his PC that wasn't included in the list. Identified as KB 3103709, there was no KB article for the patch (which, alas, isn't uncommon). More perplexing, the patch wasn't mentioned on Microsoft's main Windows Update list.


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      A week later, there's still no KB article and no entry on the Windows Update list. The patch apparently only appears on Windows 8.1 systems and it's Optional, unchecked.

      Here's where things get weird.

      Is Update KB 3103709 fake?" poster skepticaluser_2016 reported a transcript of a conversation with "Judy D" at Microsoft Tech Support that includes this enlightening exchange:

      Skepticaluser_2016: I'm reluctant to install the update since there is no information regarding it on the Microsoft website

      Judy D: Okay… Actually this is a free upgrade to everyone. If you are using win 8.1 now, you are one of the qualified to upgrade your PC to windows 10… To check if the update is already installed, go to the Start screen. If you see a Search button near your account name at the top of the Start screen, you already have the update.

      Skepticaluser_2016: So this update is the beginning of the install for Windows 10?

      Judy D: Yes… The update is gradually rolling out to everyone with a PC running Windows 8.1 or Windows RT 8.1 over a period of several weeks. If you get automatic updates but you don't see the update yet, wait a few days and check again.

      Skepticaluser_2016: Ok, thank you. I'm glad I asked. I already went down that road and had to format my computer because Windows 10 made it effectively unusable.

      Judy D:That's awesome:)

      There's some speculation in the thread that skepticaluser_2016 was, in fact, conversing with a bot (maybe AlphaGo moonlighting?), but the possibilities are frightening -- especially for folks who have been rickrolled by the Get Windows 10 juggernaut.

      There's a German-language post from Spike2 on Borncity that says (auto-translated by Google and edited for legibility):

      KB 3103709 seems to be an update for Microsoft's Active Directory Services, more precisely "NTDSAI" and "DSPARSE" because it includes changes to Windows 8.1 ntdsai.dll and dsparse.dll… That's what I found out by downloading (without installing) followed by unzipping and viewing the accompanying XML and manifest files.

      I had one report about a pop-up appearing on some PCs with KB 3103709 (the description was unclear). If there is a pop-up that refers to KB 3103709 floating around, it most certainly is not a Windows patch.

      That's where the trail ends. Have you seen anything reliable about this patch?

      http://www.infoworld.com/article/30...microsofts-unidentified-patch-kb-3103709.html
     
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    Will Microsoft stop at nothing to ram 10 down peoples throats?
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned it should be noted as a Windows 10 upgrade update and give user's the right to decline it.
     
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    Well I am now setting all pcs that I touch and/or build to download but let user install and I am warning every client I make the change for.
     
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    Last round of updates for Win 8.1 had a bunch that had no infomation and no KB article. Guess who didn't install those updates.
     
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    Yeah I think along the same lines. The fact that they do not do this could actually be the eventual downfall of MS. It's on parallel with how Windows 8 forced everyone into a metro interface initially and alienated a huge number of users. How they are handling Windows 10 is the same.
     
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    I agree for sure. Get rid of the Kb and stuff for it and then get "get windows 10" pops up when the Internet is launched. They are being far too aggressive pushing it and I believe there's ulterior motives behind it.
     
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    It's about being able to track everyone that uses a computer in my opinion. Micro$soft is and always has been about making money so they're up to something.
     
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    They plainly stated that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows as we know it and from here on you will buy the version of Windows you need on a subscription basis,
    Its what all software companies are trying to do now. I have 3 customers that signed up for yearly QuickBooks subscriptions and did not even know it. When they released
    Ms Office 2013 they said the same thing there would never be another version of Office as we know it from here on it will be Office 365 yearly subscriptions. I thought I was going blind when I saw Office 2016 released. Guess maybe Office 365 didn't do real well?

    The way to make this happen is to get everyone on Windows 10 then they have no choice about new versions. Watch how they try to pull this off. It might be the end of Windows reign
    we are actually looking at.
     
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    I read all that too, but I believe it's much easier to track everyone if they're all on the same platform (OS).
     
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    Now even worse ten is a hybrid of Seven and Eight. Its not the pretty one ither.

    Have done several remove this _______ off my system and get me back to what I was on before.

    They need to start over and eliminate the fluff.
     
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    it seems Microsoft have removed update KB3103709 from the Windows Update list!
     
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    Gee I wonder why?
     
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    it is strange im talking with someone from microsoft se if i can get something
     
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    Close. It's actually about being able to track every computer that people use. That way you not only get one person but all the people that used the computer.
     
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    And yet I will digress this is also one of Rich-M's Windows 10 alarm threads. One of many. If you are halfway competent with Windows there is not much to worry about.


    Peace.
     
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    Hey I don't have a problem with Windows 10 done as a clean install, though I personally hate it and would rather use the poorest version I can find of Linux instead, my consternation is with the damn upgrades which we all know do not work right and it is caused by the amount of time I have to spend keeping it the hell out of client systems that it would mutilate, especially if they have proprietary software on them which many of my clients have. Microsoft needs to quit trying to stick Windows 10 up every butt in US in any way possible and just stick to selling and promoting its awful new version of Windows IMHO and maybe a little product development to make it more user friendly. And a little study of what is happening to upgraded Windows systems around the country would not hurt them. Are they clueless that I would bet the 20 million upgrades they brag about probably all went back to versions they came from?
     
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    Did you ever get an answer?
     

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