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MICROSOFT SECURITY ESSENTIALS

Discussion in 'General Malware And Security' started by BGBG, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. BGBG

    BGBG Registered Members

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    I have Microsoft Security Essentials (see below file) and if I run a quick scan maybe weekly and nothing is found or quarantined, how often and which scans would be appropriate to continue running? Usually run a quick scan now and then but full takes a long time. Any suggestions?
     

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  2. starbuck

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    Hi BGBG,

    The quick scan is fine.
    It will check all the obvious areas that malware is normally found.
    It only needs to be run once a week or even once a fortnight.... that's more than enough.
    IF something is found, then a full scan can be run.
     
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    Inevitably, you will find on forums that "such and such" antimalware/antivirus/antispyware program found "viruses" in the Full Scan that Quick Scan did not find. Well first, they are not viruses, and second, those finds are benign remnants (no threat). The only real reason that Full Scan options exist, is for the same reason that Cookie deletion exists. That is, despite their uselessness, most people don't know how infections or computers work, thus they "demand" such things as full san and cookie deletion. Such things (despite being erroneous) gives the illusion of thoroughness and comfort to the unknowing.

    Not only is a full scan generally unnecessary, but it will thrash the hard drive. Furthermore, don't even get me started on the "Cookie Threat" nonsense. I can imagine the face palms at Malwarebytes when they're constantly berated with, "Your program sucks because it doesn't detect cookies". Want to know why MalwareBytes ignores cookies? Because cookies are not a threat, they are the opposite. Cookies are an integral part of your internet browser that makes internet browsing more efficient. The whole called "tracking cookie threat" is a scam.

    With all that said, anti (whatever) programs are generally useless. Reason being, is that now, virtually all end user threats are via phone and email phishing...and despite how the antivirus companies claim to have email phishing protection, they're mostly lying. More specifically, there is no way any such program can detect a phishing email to any practical degree.
     
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    Seth, did you actually read what I posted?

    I said that a quick scan is enough, there's no need to run the full scan.
    Even the quick scan doesn't need running that often as the program runs in real-time anyway.
    People that run security programs daily or weekly tend to be either over cautious or don't trust their surfing.
    Still can't work out what cookies had to do with this . ..... where were they mentioned?
    The original question was ... is a quick scan enough or should a full scan be run.
    That's all.
    Nobody asked if virus software was worth it or was it of any use.
    Don't over think your replies.
     
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    Yes, I read what you posted and I agreed with it. I have no idea why you asked me that question.
     
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    Also, cookies are relevant to the point that like "full scans", cookie deletion is not only unnecessary, but it often has negative consequences.

    Regardless, my points are valid and useful, and I don't understand why you're critiquing them.
     
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    In addition to MS Security Essentials, run a Malwarebytes scan once a week.
    I'm not sure if the free version allows you to change settings. My paid version looks like this
    MBAM.jpg
    Don't change anything there.
     
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    COMMENT: I know that MS Security Essentials is cheap but it's not very good.

    Free or low cost Antivirus software are not the best. I always advise Windows users to get a good paid Antivirus software, they are worth every penny.

    In my 40+ years in computers and as IT Technician I have experience in several AV Software packages:
    • Norton Antivirus (hoggish, big resource usage)
    • McAfee (also hoggish)
    • Bitdefender (fast, low resource usage)
    • ESET Internet Security (fast, low resource usage)
    • ‎Symantec Enterprise (when I was IT Tech at my last civilian employer) note that ‎Symantec was the originator of Norton AV.
    On my Win7 Pro 64bit Desktop rig I've use ESET Internet Security for 10+ yrs with absolutely no problems. Both software updates and virus definitions updates are smooth and easy. It now sells for $49.99 2yr subscription (best value) and a subscription can be set for auto renewal as long as your credit card is good. Also, their North America Support is excellent. Your are in contact with someone who really knows ESET, not some 'help desk' geek in India.
    Note, I do not, and have never worked, for ESET. Just a very satisfied customer. :thmbup:
     
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    My bad sorry about that Seth.
    Started to read your post and because you were talking about the bad points of a full scan, I assumed (wrong fully) that you thought I was advocating a full scan.
     
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    I had to remove ESET on my Windows 7 desktop - it slowed it down dramatically! I'd hate to see a Windows 7 user purchase it and discover that it slowed down the computer.
    I do run it on all my android devices with no problem.
     
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    No biggy.

    I figured it was some sort of a misunderstanding, although it was a bit of a head scratcher for a few seconds :)
     
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    This thread is slipping Off Topic quite quickly now guys...
    The original post was about running a quick scan vs a full scan.
    It wasn't about whether MB should be run as well or whether MSSE is any good, or Eset is better than MSSE or whether Eset slows down Win 7.
    Let's try and keep focus.
     
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    I just do quick scans every few days and a MWB scan about every other week. As far as how good MSE is I read it's better than it use to be (W7 era as a stand alone app) and might not be quite as good as the very top paid offerings but it's free and causes no issues that I've come across. I have it set not to auto scan just manual and I run MWB manually as well I just take out out of windows startup.
     

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