I know I have been advised to use web mail and forget Windows live mail and Outlook Express but I find them convenient. I do have gmail and Verizon aol mail on web mail on both laptops and do use them. I had gmail and Verizon aol mail on windows live mail awhile and Verizon mail on OE6 until it stopped because i had no time to mess with updating setting. Well , now I had time, and was able to copy from Windows Live Mail accounts and along with a bit of trial and error I got both mail accounts to work on OE6 so now I have web mail and i am back like I was on WLM and OE6. Maybe they are insecure and clutter up PC but I do not save or store lots of mail and do not have vital security information on them like bank accounts, financial documents, etc. So while I do not think I am invulnerable I am happy this way. Have more time now to get back to computing. Also have a Thunderbird g mail account.