IDT Audio IDT High Definition Audio CODEC took out my audio

I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the internet
radio.

In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
particular one is not listed. Suggestions?

 

Hi there,

Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
Microsoft hardware.

If an updated driver is needed because the hardware does not work proper go
to the manufacturers website to look for an updated driver.

If it ain't broke: do not try to"FIX" it.

If you did take the optional drivers from windows update try booting last
known good configuration, rolling back on the driver or use system restore
or
do a windows repair installation or restore from the system backup you
hopefully made.

Best regards,
Michel Denie

"Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
news:uO2noGsqIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
> devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the internet
> radio.
>
> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
> particular one is not listed. Suggestions? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Hi. thanks for the advice. I first went to Device Manager (before reading
anyadvice here) and removed that update per Windows instructions (provided
somewhere in Windows Update, clicking to MS site and reading some basic
stuff). I removed that driver, rebooted and was told that I needed new
drivers. Windows then reinstalled the same driver and I had the same
problem.

I then went to 'Backup and Restore Center' and reinstalled the settings from
days before (I just got back from a short vacation). Now everything seems
to be back to normal. Lesson learned, thanks. DH



"realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
news:ul2bePsqIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi there,
>
> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
> Microsoft hardware.
>
> If an updated driver is needed because the hardware does not work proper
> go to the manufacturers website to look for an updated driver.
>
> If it ain't broke: do not try to"FIX" it.
>
> If you did take the optional drivers from windows update try booting last
> known good configuration, rolling back on the driver or use system restore
> or
> do a windows repair installation or restore from the system backup you
> hopefully made.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Denie
>
> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
> news:uO2noGsqIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
>> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
>> devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the
>> internet radio.
>>
>> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
>> particular one is not listed. Suggestions?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Hi there,

Glad to hear your problem is solved and thanks for the feedback.

Best regards,
Michel Denie
"Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
news:uVi6ejsqIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi. thanks for the advice. I first went to Device Manager (before reading
> anyadvice here) and removed that update per Windows instructions (provided
> somewhere in Windows Update, clicking to MS site and reading some basic
> stuff). I removed that driver, rebooted and was told that I needed new
> drivers. Windows then reinstalled the same driver and I had the same
> problem.
>
> I then went to 'Backup and Restore Center' and reinstalled the settings
> from days before (I just got back from a short vacation). Now everything
> seems to be back to normal. Lesson learned, thanks. DH
>
>
>
> "realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
> news:ul2bePsqIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
>> Microsoft hardware.
>>
>> If an updated driver is needed because the hardware does not work proper
>> go to the manufacturers website to look for an updated driver.
>>
>> If it ain't broke: do not try to"FIX" it.
>>
>> If you did take the optional drivers from windows update try booting last
>> known good configuration, rolling back on the driver or use system
>> restore or
>> do a windows repair installation or restore from the system backup you
>> hopefully made.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michel Denie
>>
>> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
>> news:uO2noGsqIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
>>> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
>>> devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the
>>> internet radio.
>>>
>>> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
>>> particular one is not listed. Suggestions?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I updated this update thinking it will fix my problem, sometimes when I am
playing music with windows media player and then close media player it would
still be playing, I need to close wmp but ctrl/alt/delete.
But disabled by audio drivers like everyone else.


"realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
news:eQedCpsqIHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi there,
>
> Glad to hear your problem is solved and thanks for the feedback.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel Denie
> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
> news:uVi6ejsqIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi. thanks for the advice. I first went to Device Manager (before
>> reading anyadvice here) and removed that update per Windows instructions
>> (provided somewhere in Windows Update, clicking to MS site and reading
>> some basic stuff). I removed that driver, rebooted and was told that I
>> needed new drivers. Windows then reinstalled the same driver and I had
>> the same problem.
>>
>> I then went to 'Backup and Restore Center' and reinstalled the settings
>> from days before (I just got back from a short vacation). Now everything
>> seems to be back to normal. Lesson learned, thanks. DH
>>
>>
>>
>> "realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
>> news:ul2bePsqIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
>>> Microsoft hardware.
>>>
>>> If an updated driver is needed because the hardware does not work proper
>>> go to the manufacturers website to look for an updated driver.
>>>
>>> If it ain't broke: do not try to"FIX" it.
>>>
>>> If you did take the optional drivers from windows update try booting
>>> last known good configuration, rolling back on the driver or use system
>>> restore or
>>> do a windows repair installation or restore from the system backup you
>>> hopefully made.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michel Denie
>>>
>>> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:uO2noGsqIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
>>>> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no
>>>> playback devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to
>>>> the internet radio.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
>>>> particular one is not listed. Suggestions?
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

realcestmoi wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
> Microsoft hardware.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

For the record, not all experts agree with this advice. (In particular
Microsoft obviously doesn't or they wouldn't be distributing the drivers this
way in the first place!)

However, the same advice applies as with any other updates - make sure you're
backed up first.

Harry.

 

Hi Harry,

If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice
blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest.

Best regards,
Michel Denie
MCDST

"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:eR9gfgxqIHA.4560@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> realcestmoi wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
>> Microsoft hardware.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> For the record, not all experts agree with this advice. (In particular
> Microsoft obviously doesn't or they wouldn't be distributing the drivers
> this way in the first place!)
>
> However, the same advice applies as with any other updates - make sure
> you're backed up first.
>
> Harry. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

realcestmoi wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice
> blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I've taken drivers from Windows Update more than once, on a selection of
different machines, and never had any problems. I think 99% is a little bit of
an overestimate.

(Are you talking about the specific scenario where the currently installed
driver is non-Microsoft and Windows Update replaces it with a Microsoft driver?
It isn't quite clear from your wording.)

In general terms, if given the choice between a Microsoft driver and a
third-party driver, I'd try the Microsoft driver first and only install the
third-party driver if I was having problems.

Harry.

 

"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:%23YDFB%23yqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> realcestmoi wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice
> > blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I've taken drivers from Windows Update more than once, on a selection of
> different machines, and never had any problems. I think 99% is a little bit<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
of<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> an overestimate.
>
> (Are you talking about the specific scenario where the currently installed
> driver is non-Microsoft and Windows Update replaces it with a Microsoft<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
driver?<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> It isn't quite clear from your wording.)
>
> In general terms, if given the choice between a Microsoft driver and a
> third-party driver, I'd try the Microsoft driver first and only install the
> third-party driver if I was having problems.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Good lord. You MUST be kidding...

You should ALWAYS go the the manufacturer's site
for drivers. MS is clueless about other mgfrs hardware drivers and
the resulting mess of not applying the proper ones in the proper
way.

Last month, the mess was all about an Intel video driver that
users let AU download.

This month, it appears to be the IDT thing.

Next month, ?

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Harry.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

V Green wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> You should ALWAYS go the the manufacturer's site
> for drivers. MS is clueless about other mgfrs hardware drivers <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I would argue that many manufacturers are clueless about writing drivers for MS
operating systems, and hence the MS-written drivers (when they exist, typically
only for older components) are likely to be preferable.

Harry.

 

Hi Harry,
I was very clear by saying: If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest.

So drivers should be taken from the manufacturer only.

Best regards,
Michel Denie


"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message news:%23YDFB%23yqIHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> realcestmoi wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice
>> blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I've taken drivers from Windows Update more than once, on a selection of
> different machines, and never had any problems. I think 99% is a little bit of
> an overestimate.
>
> (Are you talking about the specific scenario where the currently installed
> driver is non-Microsoft and Windows Update replaces it with a Microsoft driver?
> It isn't quite clear from your wording.)
>
> In general terms, if given the choice between a Microsoft driver and a
> third-party driver, I'd try the Microsoft driver first and only install the
> third-party driver if I was having problems.
>
> Harry.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I'll add a follow up to this and my now solved problem.

After I reverted to an earlier 'restore' I tried to recreate this same
problem by going into Device Manager and update my Sigma Tel High Definition
Audio CODEC. After updating the driver I of course had the problem I wrote
here about. So instead of using System Restore, I used Roll Back Driver in
Device Manager (Under Sound, video and games). To my surprise that didn't
solve my problem and I was still left with no Audio Playback devices.

I was forced again to use System Restore. I'm not a Windows wiz though I've
been using Windows for about 15 years. Had this problem happened to my wife
(and countless others) a lot of time would have been wasted while they would
have tried to figure out how to solve this. A problem like this should not
have occured _and_ rolling back the driver using that option in Device
Manager should have worked _but_ it didn't.

Just passing this on ... perhaps someone else can benefit from the time I
spent on this. DH



"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:uQLFAI0qIHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>V Green wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> You should ALWAYS go the the manufacturer's site
>> for drivers. MS is clueless about other mgfrs hardware drivers<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I would argue that many manufacturers are clueless about writing drivers
> for MS operating systems, and hence the MS-written drivers (when they
> exist, typically only for older components) are likely to be preferable.
>
> Harry. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Clayton, I'm curious, were you also part of the SP1 beta for Vista?


"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:uTLK5mwqIHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I updated this update thinking it will fix my problem, sometimes when I am
>playing music with windows media player and then close media player it
>would still be playing, I need to close wmp but ctrl/alt/delete.
> But disabled by audio drivers like everyone else.
>
>
> "realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
> news:eQedCpsqIHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Glad to hear your problem is solved and thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michel Denie
>> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
>> news:uVi6ejsqIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Hi. thanks for the advice. I first went to Device Manager (before
>>> reading anyadvice here) and removed that update per Windows instructions
>>> (provided somewhere in Windows Update, clicking to MS site and reading
>>> some basic stuff). I removed that driver, rebooted and was told that I
>>> needed new drivers. Windows then reinstalled the same driver and I had
>>> the same problem.
>>>
>>> I then went to 'Backup and Restore Center' and reinstalled the settings
>>> from days before (I just got back from a short vacation). Now
>>> everything seems to be back to normal. Lesson learned, thanks. DH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "realcestmoi" <mdenie@dutchweb.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:ul2bePsqIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> Never take drivers from windows update unless they are intended for
>>>> Microsoft hardware.
>>>>
>>>> If an updated driver is needed because the hardware does not work
>>>> proper go to the manufacturers website to look for an updated driver.
>>>>
>>>> If it ain't broke: do not try to"FIX" it.
>>>>
>>>> If you did take the optional drivers from windows update try booting
>>>> last known good configuration, rolling back on the driver or use system
>>>> restore or
>>>> do a windows repair installation or restore from the system backup you
>>>> hopefully made.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Michel Denie
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Horne" <davehorne@home.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:uO2noGsqIHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
>>>>> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no
>>>>> playback devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to
>>>>> the internet radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update,
>>>>> this particular one is not listed. Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: IDT Audio IDT High Definition Audio CODEC took out my audio

I am having the same problem but I have tried to restore back to
several restore points and I get an error saying that it was not
restored. What else can I do? Jim

 

Re: IDT Audio IDT High Definition Audio CODEC took out my audio


<JAK71454@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2731411d-b936-49a4-85e9-24fcc626f16f@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I am having the same problem but I have tried to restore back to
> several restore points and I get an error saying that it was not
> restored. What else can I do? Jim<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Try this ... I'm certainly not an expert, but if this works, let me know -
reboot your computer but first unplug your speakers and anything in your
headphone output. Reboot again and plug everything back in. It's possible
Windows might 'see' the items on the second attempt.

I'm back to normal but I may try this myself (after first creating a new
Restore point).

 

This update appears to be part of the "fix" for those of us with sound
cards that will not update to vista sp1. (I have a gateway with a sigmatel
driver). If your sound is gone after the update (and it seems everyones is)
Contact your computer hardware support, they should be able to point you to a
sound driver. Download that driver and re-install. Note that the gateway
one is "unsigned", but accept it anyway. Sound should come back. Don't hit
check for updates on the microsoft automatic update button, (I did and it
gave me the same IDT codec update, suspect I might have to redo the steps to
get rid of it). Hopefully the vista sp1 update should become available.


"Dave Horne" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
> devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the internet
> radio.
>
> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
> particular one is not listed. Suggestions?
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I`M USING VISTA ULTIMATE AND JUST INSTALLED THE SAME UPDATE TODAY. AFTER
REBOOTING MY SYSTEM SAYS" NO AUDIO INSTALLED" I REMOVED IT

"Dave Horne" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I'm using Vista Home Premium and just installed the IDT Audio IDT High
> Definition Audio CODEC update today. After rebooting I have no playback
> devices. I can not Skype, can not play back CDs or listen to the internet
> radio.
>
> In addition, when I look at installed updates to remove an update, this
> particular one is not listed. Suggestions?
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: IDT Audio IDT High Definition Audio CODEC took out my audio

JAK....

I'd suggest you reboot and try again after 10 minutes or so.

I had a similar issue after the update came through last night. First I
tried to roll back the driver in the Control Panel, then rebooting but that
didn't work. Then I attempted system restore to the point just prior to
installing the update. All seemed well, but then it said that the restore
was not successful. I rebooted again, then I allowed Windows Defender to do
it's thing (apparently it runs automatically every time my system starts).

Once I was sure there was nothing running in the background, (anti-virus,
etc) I attempted system restore again. I didn't touch it until I knew for
sure that it was finished. That did the trick! I am back to where I was
prior to the update and my sound is working just fine.

Also, while I realize this forum is not to debate the point of whether to
download from Microsoft or manufacturer's websites, I DO want to make a
general observation in this regard. I went to the manufacturer's site for
this particular update. They recommend that you do your updates from
Microsoft before attempting to get the update there. In my opinion, the most
prudent thing to do would be to update via Microsoft. If there are issues,
and they can't be resolved through Microsoft, THEN go directly to the
manufacturer.

I agree that Microsoft written devices and updates are probably most likely
to be preferable. In fact, since I began using computers back in the 'old
days', the biggest issues I have ever had with drivers was when I installed
outside of the Microsoft Update platform. Oh, and many people do not have
the knowledge or skills to choose the correct drivers from often complicated
manufacturer's websites.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Craymo


"JAK71454@gmail.com" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I am having the same problem but I have tried to restore back to
> several restore points and I get an error saying that it was not
> restored. What else can I do? Jim
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: IDT Audio IDT High Definition Audio CODEC took out my audio

Hello.

Just read your last response. I have the same problem, no sound after the
update. No help in "backup and restore". Couldn't be done. And no help in
what you just suggested to "Jim".

I hope to avoid a total reboot. Any new suggestions up your sleeve?

Hopeful
Bjorn

"Dave Horne" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> <JAK71454@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2731411d-b936-49a4-85e9-24fcc626f16f@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >I am having the same problem but I have tried to restore back to
> > several restore points and I get an error saying that it was not
> > restored. What else can I do? Jim<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Try this ... I'm certainly not an expert, but if this works, let me know -
> reboot your computer but first unplug your speakers and anything in your
> headphone output. Reboot again and plug everything back in. It's possible
> Windows might 'see' the items on the second attempt.
>
> I'm back to normal but I may try this myself (after first creating a new
> Restore point).
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

realcestmoi wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi Harry,
> I was very clear by saying: If you like to have a 99 % chance after updating a non MS driver for a nice blue screen or a system that keeps rebooting if not disabled: be my guest. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Not so clear! Start by defining "non MS driver". A driver for hardware that
wasn't produced by Microsoft? A driver that wasn't written by Microsoft?

Do you mean when the original driver is non-MS and the new driver is MS? When
the original driver and the new driver are both non-MS? When the original
driver is MS and the new driver is non-MS? All three?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> So drivers should be taken from the manufacturer only.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I disagree. My experience with Windows tells me that the best bet is the driver
built into the operating system, when there is one. Adding drivers written by
the hardware manufacturer is an invitation to pain. (Of course, in many cases
you don't have any option.)

... are you talking about Windows Vista in particular?

Harry.