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I turned off UAC

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Justin, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. Justin

    Justin Guest

    For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    me constantly?
     
  2. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

    Justin wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    > Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    > me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You can substitute it with the new one now:
    "Welcome viruses!
    I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
    OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
    and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"
     
  3. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

    Justin wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    > Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    > me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Awhh ok I wont be so bad...

    go to control panel (click on clasic view on the left)> security center <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > and on the left you will see "change the way security center alerts me"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    good luck with viruses
     
  4. semoi

    semoi Guest

    The UAC, as you realize, is utterly useless.
    The concept of a warning is admirable. However the Vista UAC is simply a
    blind prompt that gives no information about any potential threat and merely
    pops up as result of user actions. Its aim is to make the user feel
    responsible if something goes awry rather than blame the lazy ass
    programming that goes into Windows.
    Win7/Vista SP3 does not have the knee jerk UAC of Vista. Alas Win7/Vista SP3
    retains, as far as I can see and have read, all the lazy ass programming
    that makes Windows unnecessarily vulnerable to the evil a-holes of the
    world.
    The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming irrelevant in
    a browser based, cloud computing world.
    IBM may have the last laugh as it pushes a Linux based cloud computing model
    to companies fed up with tithing Microsoft's endless and valueless upgrade
    cycles.
     
  5. On Feb 14, 10:03 pm, Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    > Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    > me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Replace the OS with LInux. It worked for me.

    Just trolling thru...............Trig
     
  6. Thegrackfire wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Justin wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
    >> warning me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You can substitute it with the new one now:
    > "Welcome viruses!
    > I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
    > OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
    > and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Hey CAPIN' CRUNCH...YOUR EMPTY HEAD FELL OUT OF YOUR FAT STUPID ASS AGAIN!
    OOPS!!!
    Re-install!!!
     
  7. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

    FBonWin7b1x64 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thegrackfire wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Justin wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
    >>> warning me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> You can substitute it with the new one now:
    >> "Welcome viruses!
    >> I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
    >> OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
    >> and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Hey CAPIN' CRUNCH...YOUR EMPTY HEAD FELL OUT OF YOUR FAT STUPID ASS AGAIN!
    > OOPS!!!
    > Re-install!!!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Yet I was knowledgeable enough to provide him with the solution even
    though i know vista is stinky. Which was:


    go to control panel (click on classic view on the left)> security center <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > and on the left you will see "change the way security center alerts me"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You a big fat bald and old vista fan, dont care about vista users.
    You are here only as a toothless watchdog that runs around barking to
    everyone insulting your precious vista.
     
  8. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

    semoi wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > The UAC, as you realize, is utterly useless.
    > The concept of a warning is admirable. However the Vista UAC is simply a
    > blind prompt that gives no information about any potential threat and
    > merely pops up as result of user actions. Its aim is to make the user
    > feel responsible if something goes awry rather than blame the lazy ass
    > programming that goes into Windows.
    > Win7/Vista SP3 does not have the knee jerk UAC of Vista. Alas Win7/Vista
    > SP3 retains, as far as I can see and have read, all the lazy ass
    > programming that makes Windows unnecessarily vulnerable to the evil
    > a-holes of the world.
    > The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming
    > irrelevant in a browser based, cloud computing world.
    > IBM may have the last laugh as it pushes a Linux based cloud computing
    > model to companies fed up with tithing Microsoft's endless and valueless
    > upgrade cycles.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    You are correct about all the points you are making. I have talked about
    them again and again in here, but vista fans dont have high IQ's and
    dont understand what the heck I am talking about.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming
    > irrelevant in a browser based, cloud computing world.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    This is why linux has an advantage over windows in the new CLOUD era.
    all that is needed is a cheap and stable platform to access the cloud.
    The cloud is self updating self upgrading...

    the only problem with the cloud, is that it will be getting better
    without you knowing what changes will be going on! lol
     
  9. Kayman

    Kayman Guest

  10. Not Even Me

    Not Even Me Guest

    "Kayman" <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote in message
    news:tkyvtjw916zj.1t5r5ei02wrl4.dlg@40tude.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
    > Good luck [​IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Most users with a brain don't like the constant nagging of UAC.
    As good as the idea may be, the implementation is so poor as to render it
    useless.
     
  11. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

    Not Even Me wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Kayman" <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote in message
    > news:tkyvtjw916zj.1t5r5ei02wrl4.dlg@40tude.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
    >> Good luck [​IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Most users with a brain don't like the constant nagging of UAC.
    > As good as the idea may be, the implementation is so poor as to render it
    > useless.
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    no one seems to have mentioned

    TweakUAC™ is a free software tool that you can use to quickly turn UAC
    (User Account Control of Windows Vista) on or off, or to make UAC
    operate in the quiet mode. This software is FREE, no strings attached.
     
  12. Thegrackfire

    Thegrackfire Guest

  13. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Guest

    "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    > Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    > me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Here is a good article about UAC and several methods on how to modify it and remove
    the constant nag messages:

     
  14. "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
    news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    > Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    > me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Go to Control Panel > Security Center..

    Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'

    --
    Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike's Window - My Blog..
     
  15. tweakvista

    tweakvista Guest

    Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
    unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.

    If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
    need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.


    --
    tweakvista
     
  16. Saucy

    Saucy Guest

    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
    news:%23OEUKQ4jJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
    > news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    >> me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Go to Control Panel > Security Center..
    >
    > Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall - MVP
    >
    > Mike's Window - My Blog..
    >
    >
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    No fuss, no muss, no screeches about Linux or Apple, just the correct
    answer.

    Saucy
     
  17. Justin

    Justin Guest

    Kayman wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
    >> me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
    > ¡E User Account Control
    > ¡E Image management
    > ¡E Display Driver Model
    > ¡E Search
    > ¡E 64 bit architecture
    >
    >
    > The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
    > AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
    > good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
    > detected every rootkit used in the test.
    >
    > Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
    > "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
    > avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
    > considerations:
    > Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
    > full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
    > running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
    > UAC in Vista).
    >
    > You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
    > the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is disabled,
    > then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
    >
    >

    >

    >

    >
    > Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
    >
    > Good luck [​IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    I understand why UAC is there.
    I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
    and the Java updater as well.
     
  18. Justin wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Kayman wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
    >>> warning me constantly?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
    >> ¡E User Account Control
    >> ¡E Image management
    >> ¡E Display Driver Model
    >> ¡E Search
    >> ¡E 64 bit architecture
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
    >> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
    >> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
    >> detected every rootkit used in the test.
    >>
    >> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
    >> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
    >> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
    >> considerations:
    >> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
    >> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
    >> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
    >> UAC in Vista).
    >>
    >> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
    >> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
    >> disabled,
    >> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
    >>
    >>

    >>

    >>

    >>
    >> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
    >>
    >> Good luck [​IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > I understand why UAC is there.
    > I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
    > and the Java updater as well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
    see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
    update.

    Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
    user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
    admin like on XP.

    The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
    escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
    for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
    returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
    not admin rights.

    Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
    ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
    machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.

    Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
    that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
    user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
    admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
    virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
    that's using an admin account on Vista.

    Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
    users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.
     
  19. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
    news:ewwEmZ6jJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I understand why UAC is there.
    > I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update and
    > the Java updater as well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Nope - doesn't do that here....

    --
    Asking a question?
    Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
    your OS, Service Pack level
    and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
     
  20. Justin

    Justin Guest

    Jack the Ripper wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Justin wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Kayman wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
    >>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
    >>>> warning me constantly?
    >>>
    >>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
    >>> ¡E User Account Control
    >>> ¡E Image management
    >>> ¡E Display Driver Model
    >>> ¡E Search
    >>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
    >>> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
    >>> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
    >>> detected every rootkit used in the test.
    >>>
    >>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
    >>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
    >>> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
    >>> considerations:
    >>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
    >>> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
    >>> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
    >>> UAC in Vista).
    >>>
    >>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
    >>> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
    >>> disabled,
    >>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>>

    >>>

    >>>
    >>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
    >>>
    >>> Good luck [​IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> I understand why UAC is there.
    >> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
    >> and the Java updater as well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
    > see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
    > update.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    As in when it tried to update, the UAC prompt comes up; I allow it and
    it still doesn't update.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
    > user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
    > admin like on XP.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I know that.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
    > escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
    > for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
    > returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
    > not admin rights.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I know that too.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
    > ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
    > machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.
    >
    > Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
    > that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
    > user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
    > admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
    > virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
    > that's using an admin account on Vista.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I know that too.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
    > users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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