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How to Prevent the Windows 10 Upgrade

Discussion in 'Windows 10 Information and Alerts' started by Rich M, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Rich M

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    I think if you are technically aware and modernized, and know hardware and software there is no need to be 'persuant' to avoid Windows 10. Instead you go with the flow and realize it's a new operating system.
     
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    I could not agree more but when I look at my client base I can't think of anyone who I would say is "technically aware and modernized" in my group and for the average user I have, Windows 10 will not change their lives except to add more pain possibly but there is nothing they gain from doing so for what they use computers for.
     
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    Hopefully for you and for your client base Windows 10 will smooth out for ya. For mine, even the older folks are not having any issues for the most part. Most of my recent clients are gaming oriented, but some are regular as well and no issues that I would consider pressing. The clients you have, if they are using and recent hardware, meaning Intel 2-3-4the gen chipsets, and AMD 760g,785g,970,990x, 990fx chipsets. Any recent GPU of the past 6 years, other than a 'few' driver quirks, are not going to have any issues, other than a few pieces of software that may not initially work correctly. I do not consider a program like Paltalk something to judge the quality/ usability of a new OS rollout on as something critical. Those usually are fixed on the provider of the software within a month or two, and if not they are usually patched from the OS side soon thereafter.
     
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    Oh I just think that sooner or later we have to take a real serious look at what we are doing is all. I had 3 pcs that were among the best running units I have ever had. I upgraded to Windows 10 and the laptop turned into a turtle with screen shakes. I do not need that. I like the looks of 10 and the various screens but I can't have my speeds cut in half or worse.
    One of the things I loved the most about my All-in-One is the speed of bootup and the overall stability of it. Now it takes forever to boot up, and overall runs slow. I see a bit of the screen shake I saw in the laptop as well though not as badly. Keeping up with technology should not mean allowing your systems to suffer so, it is supposed to improve things so here we are making excuses for something released that was not ready to be released is all.
    But Paltalk I use every week and I have never had it fail to work on a new OS in the past as those folks are really reactive to system changes and many people on Paltalk are complaining they either can't install it or they can't handle the new instability so I don't feel like hanging out until they fix this. I will wait 6 months and then do a clean install. I have no problem buying a copy of Windows 10 rather than go through all the contortions just to save $100.
     
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    Don't use "we" use "you". I don't know about your all-on-ones Rich. I thought you would use your main PC for most thing but it seems you don't and that is a bit puzzling. Why would you even use this supposed laptop for your communication? paltalk? I get it, but why not use the desktop?
     
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    I really don't think you can go by what happened with your AIO, Rich.

    You can't expect a perfect upgrade when you use a machine that already had existing problems.
     
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    You are not hearing me. I can't install Paltalk. I can download the all kinds of Paltalk installs but when I click on them nothing happens. There are no messages. CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD AND NOTHING HAPPENS. I have uninstalled Mbam, disabled Emsisoft and I even tried in safe mode to install it but click on it and nothing happens.

    Maybe I need to explain my setup because I am obviously not communicating it properly. I have an office and in it is my main desktop, the i5 4670 with 16 gb 2166 ram, Crucial 256 Ssd and 500 Gb WD Raptor hdd, various usb external drives, Lexmark Laser Printer C544dn, HP black laser printer MFP M127fw, Epson scanner 4180 which died yesterday finally, and the work benches with client units for repair and sale etc....

    In my back tv room which I use for Paltalk and it is basically a TV-Guest room now and my Sony E Series SVE-14AJ16L laptop sits on the back computer desk with my Dell All-in-One Inspiron 2330 which is my "play machine" with an i5 3570 cpu, 8Gb 1600 ddr3 ram, and San Disk 240 gb Ssd drive. There is also my lone inkjet printer an aging Canon Pixma sitting back there.

    When I installed Paltalk software to the Dell nothing happens as I said and after a few tries with different versions and various programs off and on etc I decided I would put Paltalk on the laptop because for one day a week I could do Paltalk from there and since I seldom use it that gave me something to do with it. It installed on the first try so I played with the system a bit and then shut it down. Last Wednesday afternoon I decided to do a trial run and first of all watched it boot up taking forever and I don't remember that happening the day I installed Windows 10. I shut it down and took a look at startup and saw nothing wrong so I shut it down and rebooted and it was at least 2 minutes until I could use it. But I decided I would live with that for now and use it that night for Paltalk. So I logged into Paltalk and as soon as I got in the screen started jumping all over the place. I joined a tech room to make sure I had audio and I heard them but they were hearing every 3rd word from me, reminiscent of the old days when I did Paltalk on Satellite and sufferred through that rotten connection for years where the screen would shake and I basically could not say more than a few words before my vocal would become all distorted to the listeners. I got through that believe it or not using dialup on one pc where that did not happen and many there in my group can remember those days. I reset the audio in the Paltalk settings and no difference. I tried different headsets and again no change. Well everyone knows that night the Paltalk sever went down and we never got the room open anyway but I decided I could not stand how slow the laptop was so I took it back to Windows 8.1 and everything ran fine. That is one of the few laptops I really ever liked and it was running with screens shaking and slow as hell and I had not used it since the night I upgraded to Windows 10 when I felt it was running fine.

    The reason I do Paltalk in the backroom originally happened because my wife was playing the piano and our condo has a cathedral ceiling in the living room so even though she was downstairs, it was really loud in my office which is a loft over part of the living room. Then my Gsd became part of the Paltalk experience as she would lay on the bed behind me and many watched her as both the laptop and Dell have web cams which are visible on Paltalk and my desktop does not have a webcam. One person even joined Paltalk to see Freyja because with free user you only get 10 seconds of video webcam and you have to become a member to see unlimited video, something you would not know unless you came to the Paltalk chats.
     
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    What's funny Cindy is that all the issues that the Dell had went away with the upgrade to 10 and they were minor issues I was living with anyway. The only real issue I had was Paltalk.
     
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    That darn Paltalk program! I tell ya.
     
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    The:bnghd: paltalk program is a real pain in the ........:grr:

    I have two machines that paltalk will not work on, both have Windows 7 on them.
     
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    You know I have never used it. I always used yahoo messenger which from the UI looks very similar to Paltalk. One of these days I will be off from work in the middle of the week and I will install it again and meat up with the team :)
     
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    Cindy try what I did (or its equivalent as you have different programs) and it worked. I shut down Emsisoft protection, uninstalled Mbam as who needs both anyway and then went into safe mode and installed it. Back in Windows right click the Paltalk Messenger icon and choose "run as Administrator" and voila it opened and ran fine.
     
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    It's not installing paltalk that is the problem.
    It installs perfectly.

    When I open paltalk on either machine, the whole computer freezes.
     
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    It installed in safe mode but would not open at all in Windows until I tried right click icon and "Run as Administrator" and what I think was causing the issue was Emsisoft so disabling the AV does not turn it off but "Run as Administrator" bypasses it.
     
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    Both of these machines had Mbam Anti Exploit on them.
    After removing it, paltalk stopped working on them.

    I just use a different machine for paltalk now.
     
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    Well then it would appear that something that Mbam Anti Exploit did to the systems in removal was the cause.
    Funny you should mention that because I ran Mbam Anti Rootkit on the Dell right before I upgraded to Windows 10. I did that because I wanted to be sure system was clean I also ran all the other regulars as well on that before upgrading and everything came up clean. Remember I said that most of the little annoyances with that pc went away after upgrading to Windows 10 and the only issue I was having was with Paltalk and slow boot but that also went away as well. It runs about the same as it did on 8.1 as far as everyday and there are currently no other issues. many of the early problems cleared up BTW Dougie when I replaced the Seagate hard drive that came in it with the San Disk 256 ssd drive which is why you had not heard me complaining about it any more after I did that so a clean install wasn't really the answer then anyway and certainly is not now. The fac6t that Emsisoft created the whole Paltalk issue I am now positive of.
     

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