Got Vista or Win7? Worry.

<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>

Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
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> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>
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My computers are shaking in their (re)boots.

--
Jon

 

Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with Windows
7's built-in firewall.

Saucy


"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
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> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>
>
> Alias <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Saucy wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with
> Windows 7's built-in firewall.
>
> Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to
how to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post and
link.

With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
public.

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h860mf$hvt$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>
>>
>>
>> Alias <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h86q2s$5l0$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Saucy wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with
>> Windows 7's built-in firewall.
>>
>> Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to how
> to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post and link.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What's with "Worry'?
That doesn't get anyone anywhere, therefore it doesn't belong.
To warn someone is quite another story and coming from the right source it
even is commendable, but the way this one does sneak up,
it isn't.
Personally I have to wonder who or what is really behind this all.
Myself, I don't have anything to be concerned about.
Oh, and take your Ubuntu thing back to Mama, please.

Harry.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
> public.
>
> Alias<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h860mf$hvt$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h86q2s$5l0$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Saucy wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with
>> Windows 7's built-in firewall.
>>
>> Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to how
> to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post and link.
>
> With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
> public.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?

I doubt it very much, especially from someone who promotes it in a Vista
forum.

 

and nothing works in Linux either, you know ports blocked....

 

webster72n wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h86q2s$5l0$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Saucy wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with
>>> Windows 7's built-in firewall.
>>>
>>> Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to
>> how to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post
>> and link.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> What's with "Worry'?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What me, worry?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> That doesn't get anyone anywhere, therefore it doesn't belong.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Guess what, sport, you're not the moderator here.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> To warn someone is quite another story and coming from the right source <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Which is what I did.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> it even is commendable, but the way this one does sneak up,
> it isn't.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You don't think that an open flaw in Vista and Win7 is worrisome?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Personally I have to wonder who or what is really behind this all.
> Myself, I don't have anything to be concerned about.
> Oh, and take your Ubuntu thing back to Mama, please.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What will your Mama do with it?

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Harry.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
>> public.
>>
>> Alias<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h860mf$hvt$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/171582/close_to_patch_tuesday_new_flaw_surfaces.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Andy Huang wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> and nothing works in Linux either, you know ports blocked....<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

No, I don't know because *everything* in Ubuntu works for me.

Alias

 

G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h86q2s$5l0$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Saucy wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Just block port 445 until the patch comes out - real easy to do with
>>> Windows 7's built-in firewall.
>>>
>>> Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to
>> how to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post
>> and link.
>>
>> With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
>> public.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

People are free to choose and is safety on the Net is a concern and not
getting malware to deal with is a concern, hell yes!
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I doubt it very much, especially from someone who promotes it in a Vista
> forum.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Where do you think I should promote it, in a Linux forum? Have you
always been this dense?

Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h87ren$br6$3@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> People are free to choose and is safety on the Net is a concern and not
> getting malware to deal with is a concern, hell yes!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I did not once mention that safety was not a concern. I merely asked the
question 'do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu for the reason
you posed'. I do not think it will make the slightest bit of difference.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I doubt it very much, especially from someone who promotes it in a Vista
>> forum.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Where do you think I should promote it, in a Linux forum? Have you always
> been this dense?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Once again, you fail to see the point of that statement. Stating in your
title that we should worry about two other OS's and so using scare tactics
to try and sell your product in here, hints of an act of desperation.
Basically, it will not work.

It seems that you're the one that is dense. Try reading the posts correctly
next time.

 

G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h87ren$br6$3@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> People are free to choose and is safety on the Net is a concern and
>> not getting malware to deal with is a concern, hell yes!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I did not once mention that safety was not a concern. I merely asked
> the question 'do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu for the
> reason you posed'. I do not think it will make the slightest bit of
> difference.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

And the reason is safety.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I doubt it very much, especially from someone who promotes it in a
>>> Vista forum.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Where do you think I should promote it, in a Linux forum? Have you
>> always been this dense?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Once again, you fail to see the point of that statement. Stating in
> your title that we should worry about two other OS's and so using scare
> tactics to try and sell your product in here, hints of an act of
> desperation. Basically, it will not work.
>
> It seems that you're the one that is dense. Try reading the posts
> correctly next time.
>
>
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

One of the flaws has been around since 1999. How long does a Windows
user have to wait?

Yes, one should be afraid of compromising one's computer and it ain't no
stinking "scare tactics". With Ubuntu, one need not worry about this
sort of thing.

Alias

 

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Easy if you know to do it. Most Windows users don't have a clue as to
>> how to access their firewall, much less configure it. Hence, my post
>> and link.
>>
>> With Ubuntu and a NAT firewall enabled router, no port is open to the
>> public.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?
>
> I doubt it very much, especially from someone who promotes it in a
> Vista forum. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Can I ask where else one should try to promote any product....where people
already use it ?

No. Where people use a different product.....in this case, Vista.

 

I USE MANY DIFFERENT OS's and I love vista and Ubuntu!!
But having a reality check with microsoft I can make money! and well ubuntu
and linux really don't pay the bills. I always believe you can say its a car
to the masses and it is, but they won't BUY IT CAUSE U drive from the back
seat.. unfortunately ubuntu didn't lose to windows.. it lost most users who
would use it to APPLE. linux will never have more than the market it has now
and well, when a distro in linux fails the adverage Joe would go buy a pc or
a mac then try to fix it, it's way above the home users ability.

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h87rc8$br6$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Andy Huang wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> and nothing works in Linux either, you know ports blocked....<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> No, I don't know because *everything* in Ubuntu works for me.
>
> Alias <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

RAYMOND PISTEY wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> But having a reality check with microsoft I can make money! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Really? How does one make money with a reality check with Microsoft?

Alias

 

G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
you're responding to a troll. Alias spends all day in here making stupid
posts like this spouting off about Ubuntu, constantly. No matter what
logic you use, he won't care, he will keep doing it, best thing to do is
just killfile his inane drivel.

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h88648$mm1$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h87ren$br6$3@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?
>>>
>>> People are free to choose and is safety on the Net is a concern and not
>>> getting malware to deal with is a concern, hell yes!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I did not once mention that safety was not a concern. I merely asked the
>> question 'do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu for the reason
>> you posed'. I do not think it will make the slightest bit of difference.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> And the reason is safety.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That does not answer the question I posed and once again you have avoided
it.

I will try again because I can see you are finding it quite difficult to
understand.

Do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of your cries of
worry with Vista and Windows 7?

My answer to that would be I doubt it very much. What would you answer be?

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> One of the flaws has been around since 1999. How long does a Windows user
> have to wait?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well it has not affected me or millions of others I suspect and I can't wait
to upgrade to Windows 7 in October.

I have heard nothing but good reports about it from real experts but
obviously you're going to get the odd salesperson or biased opinion against
it from people like you who have no doubt, an ulterior motive.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Yes, one should be afraid of compromising one's computer and it ain't no
> stinking "scare tactics". With Ubuntu, one need not worry about this sort
> of thing. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

But then you would say that wouldn't you because as I said before, you are
trying to promote for your own ends.

Your scare tactics do not scare me!

 

"milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:e5vI6hVMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> you're responding to a troll. Alias spends all day in here making stupid
> posts like this spouting off about Ubuntu, constantly. No matter what
> logic you use, he won't care, he will keep doing it, best thing to do is
> just killfile his inane drivel.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yes, I thought as much. Thanks for the advice Milt. Very good advice by
the sounds of it.

 

G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h88648$mm1$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h87ren$br6$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> G.R. Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?
>>>>
>>>> People are free to choose and is safety on the Net is a concern and
>>>> not getting malware to deal with is a concern, hell yes!
>>>
>>> I did not once mention that safety was not a concern. I merely asked
>>> the question 'do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu for
>>> the reason you posed'. I do not think it will make the slightest bit
>>> of difference.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> And the reason is safety.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That does not answer the question I posed and once again you have
> avoided it.
>
> I will try again because I can see you are finding it quite difficult to
> understand.
>
> Do you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of your cries
> of worry with Vista and Windows 7?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

If they're smart, they will.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> My answer to that would be I doubt it very much. What would you answer be?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

See above.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> One of the flaws has been around since 1999. How long does a Windows
>> user have to wait?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Well it has not affected me or millions of others I suspect and I can't
> wait to upgrade to Windows 7 in October.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It only affects Windows 7. Good luck.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I have heard nothing but good reports about it from real experts but
> obviously you're going to get the odd salesperson or biased opinion
> against it from people like you who have no doubt, an ulterior motive.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Try googling it if you know how.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Yes, one should be afraid of compromising one's computer and it ain't
>> no stinking "scare tactics". With Ubuntu, one need not worry about
>> this sort of thing. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> But then you would say that wouldn't you because as I said before, you
> are trying to promote for your own ends.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

And my ends are?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Your scare tactics do not scare me!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That's because you're stupid. Fact: Windows is malware prone. Ubuntu is
not.

Alias

 

milt wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> G.R. Barker wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> And you really think people will switch to Ubuntu because of that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> you're responding to a troll. Alias spends all day in here making stupid
> posts like this spouting off about Ubuntu, constantly. No matter what
> logic you use, he won't care, he will keep doing it, best thing to do is
> just killfile his inane drivel.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Translation: Milt has his head in the sand. He also lies because I am
not here "all day".

Alias