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CPU Lag Spikes

Discussion in 'Processor - CPU' started by Elementis, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. Elementis

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    For some odd reason after fixing some Freezing and crashing issues with my computer, it's now been having an issue where If I open up two youtube videos, or open up a couple of programs, or execute a CMD function, etc etc, There's Audible stuttering in the youtube videos and visible lag occurrences for the first few moments of running any program.

    Specs and Temperatures below:

    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
    CPU
    AMD FX-8350 17 °C
    Vishera 32nm Technology
    RAM
    32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 802MHz (10-10-10-30)
    Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (Socket 942) 34 °C
    Graphics
    BenQ GL2450H (1920x1080@60Hz)
    2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (ASUStek Computer Inc) 29 °C
    2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (ASUStek Computer Inc) 25 °C
    ForceWare version: 364.51
    SLI Enabled
    Hard Drives
    2795GB Seagate ST3000DM001-1CH166 (SATA) 27 °C
    119GB Corsair Force GS (SSD) 25 °C
    1863GB Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH164 (SATA) 29 °C
    Optical Drives
    ASUS DRW-24F1ST
    ASUS DRW-24F1ST
    Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

    I've checked, and nothing overheats during the lag, and the RAM and disk drives see no lag problems- The computer itself is also clean as a freakin' whistle.

    Here's a look at the CPU when I've recreated an instance where it audibly lags.

    http://imgur.com/BhmFEQx

    So, from that point forward, I tried many, many methods of seeing what was wrong and trying to fix the issue.

    >Use Resource Monitor while re-creating lag spike to monitor for possible programs or services that might be creating the lag

    > Bitdefender quick scan and system scan

    >Check google chrome extensions for faulty exentsions

    >run windows memory diagnostic

    >use sfc/Scannow

    >Check manually for programs that might not be working right

    >Defragment drives

    >run CCleaner and fix all registry issues

    >Open up services and try toggling windows search and superfetch

    >Restart Windows management intrumentation

    >Update all drivers

    >try and find something in Perfmon/rel

    >Switch RAM Slots

    >Check all connections inside computer

    >switch hardrive SATA cables

    >check SLI connection

    >Check Video Cards

    >Check if Liquid cooling is secure

    >Uninstall and Re-install Chrome

    >Use Windows Troubleshooter

    and a few other things that I've forgotten by now.

    I'm at my wits end here, and I can't think of anything else to try, or what might possibly be causing these massive CPU spikes- all of the previously stated methods say that everything is absolutely a-okay when it's not.



    Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Hi. This problem has all the markings of a struggling PSU.

    What brand, age and wattage?

    What are your 3.3v, 5 v and 12v rail readings.?

    You are running 2 GPU's, needs to be a strong PSU.
     
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  3. Elementis

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    er, hello there.
     
  4. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Sorry it posted before I had finished my post.
    Please read edited #2
     
  5. Elementis

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    This corsair bad boy right here, just barely over two years old. I cleaned it out just a week ago for dust.


    Rail readings are as shown below.

    +12v 11.952 V

    +5v 5.017 V

    +3.3V 3.132 V

    These readings are steady across the board for min and max values with little fluctuation.
     
  6. DSTM (Dougie)

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    +3.3v rail is down a little bit. Wiring from the PSU carry specific voltages and when a load is shared off a specific connection (splitter)the voltages drop.
    Which makes me think you are prob using a splitter for the 2 GPU's
    I would pull power to each GPU from a seperate pickup off the PSU.
    Thinking aloud here.
     
  7. IceMan37

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    Hi Elementis. You power readings seem ok. When did you first start noticing this issue? and does the youtube audio lag happen with various browsers?

    some things you can try

    * see if an add-in audio solution produces the same audio issues

    * see if your MP3's or any other audio fil has the same issue

    Note: if this audio issue is ONLY with viewing youtube and/or when opening files at the same time etc, I would suspect a browser issue but not sure it could also be a simple sound driver issue or some other latency type issue. To actually get a handle on it I believe you should do some testing with a separate audio card if you have one as well as various browsers. You can also revert to the Microsoft OS default realtek driver by uninstalling the realtek driver as well for testing purposes. Can you post a screenshot of the realtek driver version you are using as well as the device manager (expanded)?
     
  8. Elementis

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    I took a look at what you were talking about and messed about with the SATA splitter cables and so on, everything seems to be working okay so far, which is absolutely amazing.- I'll keep you updated on it and see if it reverts back to it's usual crappy self, but for now it seems to be okay.
     
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    The lag seemed to be a system-wide thing, affecting not only audio related stuff, but medium to heavy cpu intensive files.

    But as I said in the last post, messing about with my SATA cables seems to have perhaps fixed the situation.
     
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    Ok cool. Another thing you can do is disable onboard sound entirely, either through the device manager or your bios, and then play the same files, with the same browser, and the same situation, with the only difference that you have disabled sound entirely right? then while you are doing the same things then monitor your CPU usage see if you still have the spikes. Example open a youtube video with the same broser you weer having issues with and then run CMD/whatever, (dir etc), and see how the CPU spiking looks. If it's fine now it does mean somewhere you have a latency/sound issue. I would then re-enable sound (reboot) and uninstall the realtek driver and go with the default MS driver see how that works. Then we can go from there.
     
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    Well ain't that a peach! Glad you seem to have it sorted there. You know if all else fails, I have a guide on another site long go for this in my how to fix/build threads and the last ditch effort is to do a mini-rebuild, which also means unattaching and reattaching all cables, which in some cases can solve some mysterious issues. If it happens again maybe check into replacing those SATA cables.
     
  12. DSTM (Dougie)

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    I am a believer if something is now working don't try to fix it.
    Playing with it can actually bring to the surface other issues.
    Of course if it goes belly up again, then you have to dig deeper.
     
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    Yeah that is why I said if it happens again replace a cable or two :) and good advice Dougie!
     
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    Yup, she's all good. Iceman37 and Dougie for the win :D
     
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    Good job Dougie I was reading psu issue also but glad you got it. Watch that psu as the entire TX series was discontinued. It originally was Seasonic made and you can't do better but the recent ones were CWT and those were troublesome which is why I think the whole series was cancelled. Corsair has a nasty habit of using the best maker until their reputation is made and then switching to the cheapest one available which is why as a builder I avoid that brand. As a manufacturer Corsair isn't one as they make absolutely nothing themselves!
     

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