Can Vista use all 4MB of RAM?

Of course he meant 4 gig, but everyone was parroting his 4 megabytes and
running with it.

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:a8616178f11f2f1246a183e82025c48f@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Richard Urban;1122876 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> My post was facetious!
>>
>> Everyone is missing the point. The guy said megabytes NOT gigabytes!
>> You
>> missed it too.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "whs" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:ea29019becd4a37d9d2452f17b3e038f@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > >
>> > > Richard Urban;1122724 Wrote:> > > > >
>> > > >> Vista can only use 3.2 to 3.5mb for the OS and programs? No wonder
>> > > >> people
>> > > >> complain of slow start problems. Barely enough left to run
>> > > >> notepad!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Guess I wasted my money buying 4 GIG of RAM!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Richard Urban
>> > > >> Microsoft MVP
>> > > >> Windows Desktop Experience
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "+Bob+" <nomailplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:9cfe95pecjls8vr9n429c09tbdp9dbsqrm@xxxxxx> > >> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Even at 3.3 or 3.5GBs, Vista has plenty of RAM to run - and not
>> > only
>> > > Notepad. I run Vista and a vBox partition (1GB) with Windows7 in
>> > > parallel on my 4GB (3.325 real). That leaves 2.325GB for Vista
>> > and both
>> > > systems perform very well.
>> > > The bottleneck for your slow start is probably your HDD. Get an
>> > SSD
>> > > (e.g. an OCZ Vertex) and your system will boot in 10 seconds.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > whs > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Richard, I assume the OP just made a typo and really meant 4GB - else
> the whole thing does not make sense. Hopefully he will post back and
> clarify the situation.
>
>
> --
> whs <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

From: "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>

| Of course he meant 4 gig, but everyone was parroting his 4 megabytes and
| running with it.

Worse was nomenclature in this thread.

4mb <> 4MB
b = bit
B = byte
m = milli
M = mega


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David H. Lipman;1123231 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> From: "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx>
>
> | Of course he meant 4 gig, but everyone was parroting his 4 megabytes
> and
> | running with it.
>
> Worse was nomenclature in this thread.
>
> 4mb <> 4MB
> b = bit
> B = byte
> m = milli
> M = mega
>
>
> --
> Dave
> 'Generic Trojan / Adware Infestation Removal Procedures'
> ()
> Multi-AV - 'Multi-AV Scanning Tool - PCtipp.ch - Downloads'
> ()<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You guys are too purist - use your imagination. But since the OP seems
to have abandoned the thread, it may not matter anyhow.


--
whs

 

From: "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com>

| David H. Lipman;1123231 Wrote: > From: "Richard Urban"
| <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> > > | Of course he meant 4 gig, but everyone was
| parroting his 4 megabytes > and > | running with it. > > Worse was nomenclature in
| this thread. > > 4mb <> 4MB > b = bit > B = byte > m = milli > M = mega > > > -- >
| Dave > 'Generic Trojan / Adware Infestation Removal Procedures' >
| () > Multi-AV - 'Multi-AV Scanning
| Tool - PCtipp.ch - Downloads' > () You guys
| are too purist - use your imagination. But since the OP seems to have abandoned the
| thread, it may not matter anyhow. -- whs

This is Usenet. We don't use crystal balls or imagination. All we have to go on is the
text of the query.

If someone asks a question they have to be precise and provide proper facts or the query
can be misconstrued and the answer provided may be completely wrong.

--
Dave

Multi-AV -

 

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:05:49 -0400, rmo555 wrote:
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> I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Don't you just love all the self-righteous dipsticks in this group who
NEVER had a brain fart?

 

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:ml1g951h6e0huldk6lo2u4ghvm6sni9ih3@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>"Sinner" <sinner@gatesofhell.org> wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>><rmo555@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:5ree959ufe5nospni8q4he5ac06igl34s8@4ax.com...
>>>>I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
>>>> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
>>>> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>Windows has been capable of using more than 4MB ram for years.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>Only server systems (which use PAE to accomplish this) and 64-bit
>>systems. 32-bit XP and Vista cannot use a full 4MB. See
>> for a discussion.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Ugh! I assume OP meant 4GB. I answered on that basis, though I copied
> his use of MB instead of GB.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Although somewhat dated, here is an article that may help to clarify some
questions about memory use. It does state that applications only have access
to 2GB of RAM in the user mode unless you use the /3GB switch.



It seems to me that the OS does utilize all 4GB of memory, some of which is
reserved for device memory.

See:


Gordo

 

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> This is Usenet. We don't use crystal balls or imagination.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Speak for yourself! I, for one, have a great imagination
*and* crystal balls! 8^)

Tom Lake

 

Tom Lake;1123303 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > >
> > > This is Usenet. We don't use crystal balls or imagination. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Speak for yourself! I, for one, have a great imagination
> *and* crystal balls! 8^)
>
> Tom Lake<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


LMAO


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<rmo555@cox.net> wrote in message
news:5ree959ufe5nospni8q4he5ac06igl34s8@4ax.com...
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Buy 64 bit only. 32 bit is going the way of the dinosaur. (unless it is so
cheap it unbelievable).

 

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:14:07 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>From: "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com>
>
>| David H. Lipman;1123231 Wrote: > From: "Richard Urban"
>| <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> > > | Of course he meant 4 gig, but everyone was
>| parroting his 4 megabytes > and > | running with it. > > Worse was nomenclature in
>| this thread. > > 4mb <> 4MB > b = bit > B = byte > m = milli > M = mega > > > -- >
>| Dave > 'Generic Trojan / Adware Infestation Removal Procedures' >
>| () > Multi-AV - 'Multi-AV Scanning
>| Tool - PCtipp.ch - Downloads' > () You guys
>| are too purist - use your imagination. But since the OP seems to have abandoned the
>| thread, it may not matter anyhow. -- whs
>
>This is Usenet. We don't use crystal balls or imagination. All we have to go on is the
>text of the query.
>
>If someone asks a question they have to be precise and provide proper facts or the query
>can be misconstrued and the answer provided may be completely wrong.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Oh fer Christsake David - everyone knew what he meant. Try not being
so anal retentive for a day. You'll live longer and people will begin
to think you're not a dick.

 

> If someone asks a question they have to be precise and provide proper <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> facts or the query
> can be misconstrued and the answer provided may be completely wrong.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Retorts like this put many people off asking questions in NGs.

Everyone, including you, knew what the "correct" question was from the
outset.

If you're really not sure about the question and don't want to mis-lead, a
friendly response beginning with "I assume you mean..." is all it takes.

--
Regards

John Waller

 

"gordo" <gordo@phony.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Although somewhat dated, here is an article that may help to clarify some
>questions about memory use. It does state that applications only have access
>to 2GB of RAM in the user mode unless you use the /3GB switch.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The /3GB switch affects allocation of the VIRTUAL memory space given
to each running process. It has NOTHING to do with physical RAM.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov

 

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:40:47 -0600, "Canuck57" <fred@nospam.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
><rmo555@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:5ree959ufe5nospni8q4he5ac06igl34s8@4ax.com...
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
>> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
>> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>Buy 64 bit only. 32 bit is going the way of the dinosaur. (unless it is so
>cheap it unbelievable).
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
But what about driver availability? Is there a way to predetermine if
all my products have 64 bit drivers?

 

Yes! Research on the hardware manufacturers website.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


<rmo555@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ma3p955s5lqr7bokcdhidjfmnp4kcmupsn@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:40:47 -0600, "Canuck57" <fred@nospam.com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>><rmo555@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:5ree959ufe5nospni8q4he5ac06igl34s8@4ax.com...
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
>>> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
>>> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>Buy 64 bit only. 32 bit is going the way of the dinosaur. (unless it is
>>so
>>cheap it unbelievable).
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> But what about driver availability? Is there a way to predetermine if
> all my products have 64 bit drivers? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

rmo555@cox.net wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> But what about driver availability? Is there a way to predetermine if
> all my products have 64 bit drivers?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Check with their respective manufacturers to determine the availability
of drivers.


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I am so happy to know there are millions of people on the net wasting
time,it is fun!!!! some times we do help each other or somebody
else,wich is great!!!!!!! ever since my ibm 10 mb
hd 8huge mbs of mem,i have been interested in putors.
{dos 3.3} I am a 65 dirty old? I screw up my putor for the same
reason 80% of the time: typing mb instead of gig.Accitental stupitity
can happen to the best of us.


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frog1 <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>I am so happy to know there are millions of people on the net wasting
>time,it is fun!!!! some times we do help each other or somebody
>else,wich is great!!!!!!! ever since my ibm 10 mb
>hd 8huge mbs of mem,i have been interested in putors.
>{dos 3.3} I am a 65 dirty old? I screw up my putor for the same
>reason 80% of the time: typing mb instead of gig.Accitental stupitity
>can happen to the best of us.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You are an illiterate idiot... and apparently also a Texan (I know,
Texan and idiot are the same thing).

Good reasons to ignore you.

 

Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
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>
> Wait until Frank comes back from vacation. He will kick your sorry ass all
> over this forum.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

He will say he has like he always do. Both you and Frank are one trick
ponies. You spew out the same garbage day in and day out. I know what
your reply will be before I open the post. You help no one here.

Alias

 

rmo555@cox.net wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Of course you don't remember where you saw it. "It" was 4 GB.
Megabytes, Gigabytes, pretty soon you're talking real memory.

Bill

 

From: "Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net>

| rmo555@cox.net wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I read somewhere (in a magazine) that there was a way for 32 bit Vista
>> to use all 4 MB of RAM - but I can't remember where I saw it. Anybody
>> know?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

| Of course you don't remember where you saw it. "It" was 4 GB.
| Megabytes, Gigabytes, pretty soon you're talking real memory.

| Bill

So....

How do you represent (2^64)-1 in Bytes ?

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