Can Vista be "locked down" ?

I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by Vista.

I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE code is
isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for my laptop
to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?

The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".

"Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but are
able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a button in a
dialog box.

(That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)

Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although they,
too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they require access
to an administrator password to do so."

Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why setup
a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard user?

What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?

Thank you.
David

 

pc nerd wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Thank you.
> David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're most welcome.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> pc nerd wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
> comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Thank you.
>> David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're most welcome.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
You can't control your lying and spamming in this ng can you.
Get a life sicko.

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
> comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That's what the troll does, please stop feeding it, kill file the troll,
and you won't see it anymore.

 

pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by Vista.
>
> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE code is
> isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for my laptop
> to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>
> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>
> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but are
> able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a button in a
> dialog box.
>
> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>
> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although they,
> too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they require access
> to an administrator password to do so."
>
> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why setup
> a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard user?
>
> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?
>
> Thank you.
> David
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Vista is the OS (operating system) and Internet Explorer 8 is a web browser.
First, be sure that you have all Vista updates installed (SP2, etc.),
then to learn more about IE 8 security press F1 on your keyboard.

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>> secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
suggestion too.

Alias

 

No matter what you do to IE you can most definitely get infected with
malware.

--


------
"pc nerd" <pcnerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A1C4CEB3-0F02-45D3-B6AF-EB7E7EFA4E79@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by Vista.
>
> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE code
> is
> isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for my
> laptop
> to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>
> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>
> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but are
> able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a button
> in a
> dialog box.
>
> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>
> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although they,
> too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they require
> access
> to an administrator password to do so."
>
> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
> setup
> a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard user?
>
> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more secure?
>
> Thank you.
> David
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h9ar7g$75q$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
>>>> comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>> suggestion too.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You really are a TURD.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Now, now, Nymshifter, don't have a stroke.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>> secure?
>>>
>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
> suggestion too.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

adâ‹…voâ‹…cate

–verb (used with object)
to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend
publicly.

–noun
a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person, cause,
etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.

Just a suggestion!

 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
> Vista.
>
> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE code
> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for
> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>
> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>
> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
> button in a dialog box.
>
> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>
> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>
> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard user?
>
> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
> secure?
>
> Thank you.
> David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS -
they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>>
>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>> suggestion too.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>
> –verb (used with object)
> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend
> publicly.
>
> –noun
> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person, cause,
> etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>
> Just a suggestion! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!
>>>
>>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>>> suggestion too.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>
>> –verb (used with object)
>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend
>> publicly.
>>
>> –noun
>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>
>> Just a suggestion! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Now nothing. I made my point and you graciously ended this discussion.

We'll debate a different issue some other day. ;-)

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>> secure?
>>>
>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
> suggestion too.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Liar! You're a lying linturd spammer.

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>
>>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!
>>>
>>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>>> suggestion too.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>
>> –verb (used with object)
>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend
>> publicly.
>>
>> –noun
>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>
>> Just a suggestion! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for years...hahaha!

 

Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>> Vista.
>>>
>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE code
>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for
>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>
>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>
>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>
>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>
>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>
>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard user?
>>>
>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>> secure?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS -
>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR Linux/Ubuntu
> crap. You can't run the popular software programs out there.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

No, YOU can't. LOL! You're too stupid.

Alias

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's
>>>>>> free and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!
>>>>
>>>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a
>>>> good suggestion too.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>>
>>> –verb (used with object)
>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend
>>> publicly.
>>>
>>> –noun
>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for years...hahaha!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu Advocate.

His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years, but you, Frank,
continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
flames. Put away the matches.

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>> Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>> code
>>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible for
>>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>
>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>
>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>
>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>
>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>> user?
>>>>
>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>> secure?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> David
>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS -
>>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>> there.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> No, YOU can't. LOL! You're too stupid.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Projecting again...LIAR!

 

ray;1141960 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > >
> > > I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
> > > questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
> > > Vista.
> > >
> > > I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > code<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > for<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
> > >
> > > The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
> > >
> > > "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > but<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
> > > button in a dialog box.
> > >
> > > (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
> > >
> > > Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
> > > they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
> > > require access to an administrator password to do so."
> > >
> > > Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
> > > setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > user?<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >
> > > What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
> > > secure?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > David > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to
> MS -
> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking
about. You better update yourself with some professional data (

).


--
whs

 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>> Vista.
>>>
>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>
>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>
>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>
>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>
>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>
>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>> user?
>>>
>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>> secure?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
> there.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run free
equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that Linux is
not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are other
distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is not
the only alternative to MS.

But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!