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6 quirky features of Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10 Information and Alerts' started by allheart55 (Cindy E), Sep 21, 2015.

  1. DSTM (Dougie)

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    With Windows10 Microsoft have unprecented control over your Computer and ordinary people are unaware of it's implications.
    Only the Tech savvy know how to tweak and keep Microsofts invasion of privacy to a mininum.
     
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    I realize that Cindy but there is nothing about that Start Menu that I would want regardless of its size. Frankly all it is is a shrunken Metro page and I thought
    Microsoft already learned their lesson on that one but quite evidently not so. If I wanted to totally redesign my start menu, I would just stay with Windows 7
    which had the best one anyway, as I already decided to do for my computers I care about.
     
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    You are right Dougie also which is one of the reasons I have nothing of any personal value on my Windows 10 pc. It has no files
    of its' own and nothing of any value on it. Meanwhile I am planning to build a new unit and really get to learn Pc Linux because I am certain that is where I'll be before long.
    One thing of note though and that is the release of Ms Office 2016 in traditional form, after they said 2013 would be the last of those, has to mean Microsoft has again failed to put across its cloud based Office program. I wonder what that means for it cloud based Windows plan for the next version of Windows.
     
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    Basically Windows 10 is Windows 8 done right -- sort of. It's "tiles" are done right, although many of the tiles themselves are "spam" or other services that many people don't care for. For example I do not want nor will I ever own an XBOX I am a PC gamer and always will be. The programs menu I don't care for too much they should just rename it back to "programs" and they should all be there listed like before. Windows 7 and 8 now has just a few of the same privacy issues that Windows 10 has MS have forced those privacy updates on unsuspecting users, though easily remedied through uninstalling the updates, it's tedious.

    I have already written sort of an open letter to MS and I know a few on the inside. Here are the basics of it.

    1. Give back the privacy to the end user -- at least most of it at default.

    2 If you are going to try and get some end user information make 'that' the option and not the default.

    3. Fix the menu by getting rid of all the unnecessary tiles that would be best left as an update or downloadable tile from the MS store. Basic tiles only please, and even at that make that an option too. Have an option for a straight up programs menu like before if you want to call them "apps" it's ok but make sure they are all there like before and structured like before. Give the user the ability to toggle legacy programs menu mode.

    4. Eliminate the sharing of connections or any network settings completely.

    5. Bring back true Windows Aero. It's ok if it's styled in a Windows 10 sort of way as long as the full window border is truly transparent.

    6. Bring back proper colored titlebars instead of the default being pure white making a user have to hack it to get any type of colored title bar at all and allow aero on that as well.

    7. It's ok that the default of Windows home allows automatic updates but give the user regardless of the windows version the easy and quick ability by prompting during the first update itself to change the setting to no driver updates (at all as a selection) or very delayed windows updates.
     
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    Would be good if they made these changes. I wish they modelled Windows10 after the Windows7 format.
    I am still more comfortable with Windows7. OK I had Windows 8 then 8.1 and now Windows10.
    I hated the gawdy Tiles to first moment I laid my eyes on them.
    I only kept 2 tiles and made them as small as possible.
    They leave "File Explorer" colourless and so bland. What was M$ thinking?
    So in your face bright colours I keep looking for "Thomas the Tank Engine":crazy:
     
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    "Basically Windows 10 is Windows 8 done right -- sort of." Kind of right here yet the number of major changes you suggest sounds like the opposite is true. I can't believe I am going to say this but I much preferred Windows 8.1. The other day I had a client computer and when they complain about the unit being slow I always go into Folder Options in Control Panel and change it to "single click" as the first thing I do. What? No "Folder Options"????? TG the "search" in Classic Start worked right as I had to use that to get to Single click.

    I hate being without Aero, The "Start Menu" is a bad joke. I is nothing like what it was supposed to be. Why buy a new OS to entirely change the Start Menu? As I said in another thread it is so much easier to use Classic Start Windows 7 setup. That big ugly Search bar can be hidden and good riddance at that but why cut down the size of the taskbar so much in the first place? Was this a feature planned for a "legally blind person"?

    The privacy issues, well shame on Microsoft. All the years they railed against Google and they finally managed to top any ugly thing Google has ever done!

    As I have said many times I don't upgrade because its the newest version of Windows. I am way past that excitement. To me the major reason to update is a change that makes chores easier or faster and this thing again does exactly the opposite. Oh and I still cannot get Paltalk to work with it.

    And so goes the string of every other versions of Windows is a great one.
     
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    I get your point Richard and I feel for your clients and for you too. Not everyone wants to deal with an operating system that was released haphazardly and not finished, and not polished up the way it should have been. It's definitely not for everyone. I found the folder options and single click within 1 minute of booting up the OS the first time Rich. Not only that but I set the view pane to always show and I can instantly do anything I want at all times. This is the view I always have in every folder I just took this screen.

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    I hear you I would like to get Aero back. They had it in certain builds of Windows 10 I do not know why they left it out of the final release. I like Classic Windows menu much better too I agree, but I can definitely work with this menu far better than the default Windows 8 menu -- meaning the in your face jumbo tiles. Having said that both operating systems can be tamed with the 3rd party add ons as you had mentioned though I prefer not to use them for a while so that I can know the OS really well in it's native state.

    You got that one right, but remember I believe you use an I-Phone. All of us with smartphones have had this privacy invasion for quite some time - from proxy, to telemetry, to user habits on the web, to the very hardware on the handset itself. What is different now is that Windows before had not had this type of privacy invasion going on at default. Unfortunately now it does and in that sense we are in agreement. I hope MS changes this policy back to where it needs to be to give users more confidence going forward with any Microsoft product.

    My recommendation to you would have been to install it on your newly built system with a spare hard drive you have lying around it would have given you a flawless experience as it has me. I would have cautioned you about installing it on a laptop - the Sony VAIO that had already publicly released a statement to not install Windows 10 until further notice. Mostly the same for the Dell AIO you used. I would have first consulted Dell about it, and the compatibility of it, and any issues you may encounter, and then did a full backup, and then I would have wiped the HDD clean on the Dell and done a clean install.

    About Paltalk I had no issues here I got it working fine on both my two dekstops and laptop. I uninstalled it on all machines though since it's completely useless to me I won't be using it anyway so that is that.
     
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    William, I had no need to find "single click" myself because I always use it and when I upgraded that pc I had single click already so I never noticed the folder was missing from Control Panel as I never had to look for it. That actually happened later at the clients home the other day and I was stunned to see the folder missing.

    I don't disagree that the new start menu is better than none at all in Windows 8 but for me, it makes no sense to me to spend the time fixing something I will never like no matter what it does and I really like Stardock and Classic Start menus. That is just a matter of personal taste I suppose.

    As for what pc I put Windows 7 on, isn't that a matter of what I have available? I run 2 businesses on my main desktop and I am afraid that one even though it is the newest, is the very last place I would ever put a new, not ready for prime time OS, even if Bill Gates gave me his personal guaranty it would be the best thing since sliced bread, and again shouldn't that be up to me? (Who is the real micro manager here, will he please stand up and be recognized anyway?)

    I would imagine that Paltalk probably will work with a clean install of Windows 10, though you are the only one with 10 on their system I have yet heard of getting it to work, but anything is possible with computers as we both know. Personally I do not have enough interest in Windows 10 to bother clean installing it now though I am sure in a few years when it is sufficiently fixed I will be doing it
    as will everyone else, unless I move on to Linux, something I have been giving a great deal of thought to lately.

    I had also read that Sony Vaio computers with Windows 7 will be getting drivers this month that should make them work OK while Windows 8 users will not see the new drivers until October or November and that is one of the reasons I have yet to put Windows 10 back on that laptop. I may not rush to take advantage of those though this year but instead give them time to further evolve
    their software to make sure what happened to me in August does not reoccur. It was indeed shocking to see an expensive and very quick laptop rival the slowest netbook I have ever seen in speed trials and suggested to me that maybe there really was no need ever to upgrade that pc that does run so well on Windows 8.1 and oh BTW, I am still waiting to hear what it is that Windows 10 will do for me that 7 will not do and whether or not anyone has found anything that runs faster or better on Windows 10 than Windows 7. It has been a long and interesting wait though!
     
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    It's in the control panel but they clanged the name to File Explorer Options for some stupid reason.
     
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    It's likely you may have had your Emsisoft blocking it somehow not sure, or you may have needed to change UAC permissions on the installation. There is something I do that very few do, and that is I use full admin privilege to install all programs and then when I initially use it also admin. After it's working correctly and I have used it and verified that it will work correctly I then change UAC back. I had absolutely no issues with Paltalk on 10 that way. Again I do this with all programs (if I know they are safe).

    Another thing is I know you use OS images a lot, and if I remember right you also installed 10 over 7, which is great for the initial OS string verification on the MS servers, but you want a totally clean install when you actually decide to use Windows 10 it works a lot better.
     
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    I don't think anyone need answer that if you like 7 and you prefer to use it go ahead. I don't blame you. But remember if you are basing it on things like not being able to get paltalk going, you are making a mistake somewhere and I already offered to remote you but you never answered. I do believe I would be able to get it working correctly.
     
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    With Paltalk I finally was able to install it in Safe Mode but I still could not get it to run in Windows. I do what you do with install as Administrator and then turn UAC back on though I have a program my wife has to use that will not run with UAC on at all called Calendar Creator. I have tried to get her into other Calendar programs but she is so resistant to change I gave up. Only in 8 and 10, it runs fine in Windows 7 with UAC working.
     
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    I have never upgraded from 7 to Windows 10 and actually I am really anti Upgrade altogether. The only reason I don't do a clean install on 10 is the time factor
    and the fact I just don't care enough that it works right but I will do it one of these days.
     
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    Thanks Ray I'll check that out!
     

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